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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:50 am 
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No surprise there are no resolutions with NTM, same with ABWE as their new president didn't bother to even contact the bangladeshmksspeak victims. My husband got an email from a Susan Esson telling him he should take down his mean article against ABWE because they are taking care of their problem. He replied that he has written so many that he needed to know which one she was referring to and he would evaluate whether he owed ABWE that much. He hasn't heard back from her. These adoring people of these mission agencies will back them even knowing of all the abuse they allowed. Oh they put all these supposed checks and balances in place and then the past is suppose to be all forgotten without the mission agencies ever caring one iota for the victims. Full stop.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:30 am 
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Doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence in "the church" or "missions" when this sort of attitude keeps coming up again and again.
Alas it boils down to the same old problem, money. These are now organisations running along the lines of corporations. Their primary interest is to survive and/or expand, to do that they need to keep the money rolling in.

Looks like Bemused has more faith in God than some of these organisations, who seem to have more faith in money.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:54 am 
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So true, Bemused.

Survival, accomplished by keeping the supply of (millions of) dollars coming in, seems to be the focus of these organizations, churches and Christian schools.

New Tribes Mission is just one environment among many where the abuse of innocent children and young people is now coming to light. Victims from decades past are finding their voices and telling their stories .... not just from overseas missions but from a number of locations in the States as well.

And it breaks my heart the way these revelations are causing me to question everything I was ever taught by people who called themselves Christians. The realization of gross abuse, cruelty, secrecy and control erodes my ability to trust or believe any fundamentalist religious human being, no matter how many Bible verses they can lecture me with.

So very sad. I cling to a belief that God is bigger than all this ... and that He is in no way pleased with the way people have been wounded in groups that claim to know and love Him.

His lack of intervention, retribution or healing are things I am still wrestling with internally.

I don't know that I will ever find answers to my many questions.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:59 pm 
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And the scary things is that I'm even right. I shouldn't be.

Those that proclaim to have great faith in God, should not be doubting His provisional capacity so much, that they need to stoop to the things they do to ensure they receive what they claim He has promised them. And humble me should not have to be pointing this out, because I should be busy with my bitter spirits, which I don't actually seem to have.

It's all back to front, but then I'm just being honest and asking they that should even be more honest than I, to be so and that is where this whole problem started.

If we got back to basics, like honesty, integrity and making amends for past mistakes, then many more would have proper faith in what they are supposed to and not what they are not.

My two cents worth :o

P.s. Hear it's a cold start to the year, condolences on that one.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:03 pm 
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Yes, my frozen brain could barely follow your logic in that post, but I will trust your brilliance and say, yes, once again, you are correct!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:11 pm 
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Must be really cold up there then :lol:

Will try again. I'm supposed to be the one who has a lack of faith in God providing, not organisations that claim to serve God and believe He will provide, yet are scared to do the right thing because they might incur costs.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:15 pm 
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Incur ... rhymes with brrrr .....

.... I may not thaw out till Spring.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:12 am 
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Sounds seriously cold. I've got some "BrainAntiFreeze" somewhere here. Look here it is "Brut666" oops no that's some Australian stuff, don't touch that!

Ummmmmm, I'll keep looking. Maybe a nice bottle of Kiwi wine :P .


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:00 am 
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Aaaahh .... that'd be nice ...

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9595893 ... knot-today



At least someone is moving on in life....


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