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Sorry , meant First degree rape.

I think NTM should definitely do everything in their power to see these guys in jail. My only point was that, in the end, their power is limited by the laws. I would really like to know more detail about when Philippine FC first knew of the possible abuse. My recollection, and I think Raz posted the same recollection, is that action was taken as soon as they knew and seemed entirely appropriate at the time. I also know that Philippine field leadership was not personally detached from this situation.

From personal experience, I can tell you that "Philippine justice system" was (likely still is) an oxymoron. I don't think FC judgment was impaired by believing nothing would be dealt with with Philippine authorities. I don't have recent experience to know whether enough has changed in the Philippine system that might be different today if extradition could be accomplished.

I know if a completely unrelated event involving non-NTM friends that was never even investigated despite pretty good clues about the perpetrators. The Philippines was, and I believe still largely remains, a very inefficient and corrupt place. I dearly love it, but not for those reasons.

To add insult to Injury, there was no amount of begging or pleading with NTM even now, 18 years later, that would get anyone in NTM to report these crimes in the jurisdiction where the crimes were committed. They simply refuse. When pressed repeatedly, their final response was "have your lawyer contact our lawyer."

Is that not blatantly protecting the perpetrator?

So, let me get this right. Your collective lack of faith in the Philippine Justice system makes it completely OK disregard any and all laws. Is that so?

Did a litle investigating into mandatory reporting in the Phillipines. Church ministers are exempt from mandatory reporting (this is mainly established for the catholic church but covers all other religious orders also.) Doesn't mean they shouldn't report it though. I personally know of the rape of a 3 year old girl in a third world country (not Phillippines) with stiff underage sex penalties (this case does not involve NTM except in the helping of the family to report the crime). I was present when the man was caught in the act and reported to the police immediately. He was arrested but released three days later because he was deemed "crazy" for doing such a thing. No more action can be taken.

Teachers and caregivers are not exempt... Does the knowledge that little would be done justify disregarding the laws of the host country and the laws of the United States at the expense of the abused?