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As I understand it one member of the panel is a survivor. Do not know the person or their name.

Andy,

What are NTMs thoughts on updating the "Fanda Updates" on their website? It's going on 3 months since they posted anything. The fact that investigation of other schools has started seems news worthy to me. I think it is just important for the public to be praying about that as it is for them to pray about the tribal needs. It all matters.

This is the lengthy report produced in the Presbyterian MK abuse investigation, in which Pat Hendrix was involved:

http://www.akha.org/upload/documents/presbyterian_iarp_final_report.pdf

It is very long, and I have mostly skimmed it. But I think it is a good document for us to look at. It is quite different than the GRACE report on Fanda, and might be helpful to prepare us for what a report written by Pat Hendrix and others may look like.

Some parts of it look pretty comprehensive and helpful. But it feels very weak to me in the area of what the consequences should be to perpetrators and those who enabled or covered for them.

I will continue to pray for very complete investigations of each situation in NTM, and results that will be genuinely helpful and healing for survivors.

Does Raz's comment cause any alarms to go off?
Fanda MKs have quite a bit of validation---even if not perfect in this imperfect world.
And we PTL for that!
Now what about the others? Wait 6 more years and be disappointed? Who said the lawyers will be doing their homework? Sounds as tho that was a realistic comment and not a pessimistic one.
People! Yes, we should pray as Raz has suggested.
And what about asking for the wisdom from above and being realistic?
For a starter, think about why GRACE was not asked to continue on.
Weren't they professional?
Weren't they biblical?
Weren't they excellent?
What did the MKs say about their contacts with GRACE? Very empathetic and at the same time comprehensive and capable.
What does NTM say about why they are not retaining their services? What?
If in your private conversations, you are hearing integrity, that's great.
If you are seeing openness and transparency, fine, but how open is that when only a very few are involved?
It's ok to ask questions. Really ok.

I just scanned through the "Pat Hendriz" report that Raz mentioned and I'm not real happy with it. Out of all the abuse complains, most were not investigated or insufficent information and dropped. Only 4 or 5 were named as abusers and punishment,,,,,,,,well????????????????????
It doesn't look like any leadership were held accountable.

I don't care for it. I agree with Raz's observations.

I wish we had GRACE

Regardless of who performs the investigations, I think the expertise required to conduct an investigation may be different from the expertise required to make recommendations based upon the results of an investigation. The job of the first is to determine what the facts are. The job of the second is to recommend actions based upon those facts. Regardless of the recommendations, NTM is not bound to follow the recommendations and is not bound not to take actions beyond the recommendations. I would hope, that if NTM is serious about correcting/preventing some wrongs here, that the investigation results alone would be sufficient...in other words, should NTM really have to have somebody recommend to them that they fire somebody who raped a young girl.

If I hired a private investigator to determine whether my employees are stealing from me, do I really need a "recommendation" from the investigator that I fire an employee after it is determined that the employee is stealing from me? NO! I would just fire them or otherwise discipline them.

My point is, that what is important is that a thorough and reliable investigation take place and that the results of that investigation are made public. It is then up to NTM to step up to the plate and take certain action. Fine, if NTM needs hand holding or a little nugding with 3rd party recommendations, maybe there should be 3rd party recommendations. But, it is sad that they would need that.

Regarding GRACE, I did question the legaility or practicability of a couple of its recommendations. I would steer clear of geting too fancy with recommendations.

To the extent NTM is limited in the extent to which it can publicize certain actions, legally or otherwise, I would recommend that NTM at least explore the possibility of publicizing in general terms what it has done. I.e., we have terminated the active membership of x number of missionaries, including x number of active or former members of various field committees. we have instituted x,y,z, policies. etc. etc. The fact is, that actions taken in private (although some word does get around) does not do much for those of us out here that would receive some benefit from the knowledge that certain actions have taken place.

Haven't written anything for awhile and I am not NTM MK but was from GMU now Avant and went to Mamou where there was 20 years of abuse, 50s to 70s.

I am getting the feeling after dealing this abuse thing that those in leadership in missions enjoy just leading MKs on by saying they will do something, paying for a little counseling, but in reality say "no way I control this situation". They are holding control over us, I am beginning to feel the only way to gain back control is to go to court. There they are not in control the court is, even if they settle out of court to keep it out of the public eye they know they no longer have control of us. The real issue is they must have control, O sure they aren't happy about the abuse, may even personally think it is evil, but they have to stay in control.

Sherpa is out of the hospital and was playing the air guitar on the way home. Fingers working fine. THANK YOU LORD.