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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:18 pm 
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This is excellent. Smoke detectors are the only thing that will notify a sleeping person that there is a fire. A person will not wake up before it is to late otherwise.

Another analogy. When fighting a fire in an enclosed space (i.e. a house), always do so with a friend (like being on Fanda Eagles and having the support of friends), always wear the right protective clothing and gear and have the hose with you.
When you get to the door, get your colleague to open it real quick, just long enough to assess what is going on on the other side (squirt the door first on the outside, it will tell you how hot the door is and where the smoke level is at). If you see a fire, give a 3 second burst aimed at the ceiling. Do not fire directly at the fire, because all the crap will explode back out the door where you are (it has to go somewhere). A 3 second burst will make so much steam it will absorb huge amounts of heat energy and cool the fire real fast. Then do it again and again as necessary. Then it will be safe to go into the room and put out the fire.
The analogy being, sometimes working smarter is better than blasting away with all hoses firing.
Never ever go into a fire alone!

Any Kids reading this, call the fire department, do not try and be a hero. And don't worry about being scared by a firefighter in shorts riding a bike, he don't wear shorts and rides in the big red thing :D

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O.k. Bemused here is some advice. If you are called to put out a big fire called NTM, don't be a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!! NTM has been watching the fire smouldering away and now it is reaching flashover point. A lot of people are going to get hurt, but really it is not our responsibility. They have been provided with opportunity after opportunity to get out or do the right thing and deal to the fire!!!!!!!!!! But hell no, they just kept fueling it with more and more destroyed innocent lives and now the flames of retribution are dancing and the whole thing looks like it is going to go up.

Stand back good firefighters of Fanda Eagles, you have done yourselves proud, you have fought the good fight, now the devil is about to take his own and all we can do is throw in the sackcloth when the ashes cool down!!!!!!!

You had your chance Tribers, but how many of you reached out to the likes of this boozed up, divorcee? #%##% all of you, no you probably just tut tutted and tried to rack you hopeless memories for which little MK I was, you probably spent more time gossiping than praying for MKs!!!!!!!


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What are you seeing, Aussie? Or hearing? I don't think I'm in the same loop as you. Actually, don't think Im in any kind of loop. Help me out?


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I see what I see in the mirror. Someone who has had their life wrecked by the cult NTM. I hear nothing, I hear no apology, I hear no words of compassion. All as I see is selfish Tribers saying they knew nothing, they heard nothing and they were only serving Jesus. I am standing in a field of total crap, because many did know exactly what was being done to MKs and they did absolutely nothing. They let theirs leaders destroy the evidence. It is just lie after lie, excuse after excuse.

I am sick of the lies and the calls to trust them to sort it out.

It doesn't take a genius to work out how much trouble NTM is in!!!!!! Look at what lengths Crossview is going to in distancing themselves from Sanford. Look at how quickly and severely Kennel got dealt to by ICE. The authorities have had a gutsful of this shameful nonsense and now they have started coming down hard on it. Only a fool would think that NTM is not being watched now!!!!!!!

Flashover is near folks, God will not be mocked. The wholesale slaughter of innocent lives is going to be avenged.


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Don't know if this was posted or not . . .just found it . . .

SEX ABUSE SCANDAL CONTINUES TO GROW WITHIN NEW TRIBES MISSION

http://www.pathtojustice.com/blog/bid/3 ... 7INCtq9KSM

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by Adam Horowitz

More facts continue to be gathered and shared about what had previously been a well-kept secret within one of the largest Christian missionary organizations of the world. There are mounting accounts from all corners of the globe of an institutional pattern of child sexual abuse and physical torture of missionary kids by dormitory parents of New Tribes Mission (NTM). NTM is an international, evangelical Christian missionary organization with its worldwide headquarters in Sanford, Florida. NTM sends missionaries and their children from local churches around the world to underdeveloped countries in Latin America, West Africa, and Southeast Asia. NTM's mission is to spread Christianity around the world.

In 2010, a third-party, GRACE, conducted an exhaustive inquiry into reports of child sex abuse at New Tribes Mission Fanda School in Senegal. The report exposed a shocking pattern of widespread neglect and abuse of vulnerable children. More recently, accounts of the same institutional abuse are emerging in other parts of the world where NTM missionaries committed many of the same acts, including Panama, Philippines, and Papua New Guinea.

No matter the country or region of the world, there is a similar pattern to each of these accounts. NTM missionaries spend much of their time "in the field" spreading Christianity to small towns and villages around the world. NTM generally requires the children of the missionaries, known as missionary kids, to live in dormitories owned and operated by NTM. Similarly, the children often attend schools operated by NTM. NTM assigned "dorm parents" the duty to supervise, nurture, and develop the missionary children while their parents are attending to the mission of NTM. NTM literature explains that they are organized in this manner to allow parents to concentrate on their holy mission, rather than be distracted while caring for their children. As a result of this structure, the children become highly dependent on their "dorm parents" who are expected to play an instrumental role in their development while their parents are away for long stretches of time.

For many years, numerous missionary kids (known as "MK's") suffered in silence enduring both physical and sexual abuse. Accounts of the abuse were not isolated to a single mission or a particular dorm parents. According to published reports, the abuse was widespread in multiple dormitories. These dorm parents entrusted with the responsibility of nurturing these children used their authority to betray these children and engage in horrific acts of abuse. Not only was corporal punishment accepted, but there are reports of widespread sexual abuse with little to no accountability for the perpetrators. The remoteness of the overseas villages, the insular community, the threats requiring secrecy, and the authority of the perpetrators fostered an atmosphere that allowed these abusive conditions to persist and become an institutional pattern. Needless to say, the abuse has caused a ripple effect affecting not only the abused children but also their entire families and communities.

In recent years, the MK's have shared accounts with other of their own experiences and begun the difficult process of reporting the abuse to NTM authorities. Many of these cases have been settled though mediation while others have moved forward into litigation where personnel records and other damaging evidence linking the negligence of NTM leaders to the abuse can be obtained. The abuse within NTM is an institutional problem and it is not limited to the 1970's and 1980's. In 2013, an NTM missionary was arrested by federal officials on child abuse and pornography charges while in possession of a hard drive with images of him abusing children.

Our attorneys are highly experienced in representing survivors of childhood sexual abuse by New Tribes Missionaries in civil lawsuits. We have overcome motions to dismiss on statute of limitations grounds in lawsuits filed against New Tribes Missions. Although the underlying abuse in these New Tribes Mission lawsuits occurred overseas, these lawsuits can be brought in Florida courts because New Tribes Mission is based in Sanford, Florida.

If you or someone you know was a victim of child sexual abuse by someone affiliated with the New Tribes Missions, please contact our law firm at (954) 524-2820 or send an email to sexual abuse attorney Adam Horowitz at adam@pathtojustice.com.


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Here's a follow-up post:

http://www.bobfelton.com/?p=26596

More trouble for New Tribes Mission?
Posted on May 28, 2014 by Bob Felton
There may be yet another round of lawsuits headed toward New Tribes Mission, the global missionary organization. From the Web site of a Florida law firm:
In recent years, the MK’s [missionary kids] have shared accounts with other of their own experiences and begun the difficult process of reporting the abuse to NTM authorities. Many of these cases have been settled though mediation while others have moved forward into litigation where personnel records and other damaging evidence linking the negligence of NTM leaders to the abuse can be obtained. The abuse within NTM is an institutional problem and it is not limited to the 1970′s and 1980′s. In 2013, an NTM missionary was arrested by federal officials on child abuse and pornography charges while in possession of a hard drive with images of him abusing children.

Our attorneys are highly experienced in representing survivors of childhood sexual abuse by New Tribes Missionaries in civil lawsuits. We have overcome motions to dismiss on statute of limitations grounds in lawsuits filed against New Tribes Missions. Although the underlying abuse in these New Tribes Mission lawsuits occurred overseas, these lawsuits can be brought in Florida courts because New Tribes Mission is based in Sanford, Florida.

If you or someone you know was a victim of child sexual abuse by someone affiliated with the New Tribes Missions …


This is a marketing release from a law firm, so there is no incentive to be subtle or nuanced, but the gist of it is dead-on: Child abuse in the missionary subculture is widespread and systemic; it arises directly out of the belief system itself.

A few years ago I reviewed the documentary All God’s Children, and had the opportunity to spend time on the phone with many of the people whose abuse is portrayed in the video. They pointed me toward The Missionary Myth, a book written by one of the children abused at the Christian Missionary Alliance school once operated at Mamou, Guinea, and I spent a good amount of time on the phone with her, too.

There is no doubt in my mind that their stories are true, that they still suffer, that those who love them and live with them suffer, too — collateral damage — and that the evil inheres in the teachings. So if there is another round of litigation heading toward NTM, I think that’s good news.


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Adam Horowitz is an attorney who used to be part of the Herman Law Firm, which has filed two lawsuits that I know against NTM.

Apparently Adam Horowitz is now with Farmer, Jaffe, Weissing, Edwards, Fistos & Lehrman, P.L.


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