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Thank you, Lori, for clarifying this very complicated timeline/story.

(Did you like my description of you as a "quiet, seldom-heard-from MK who called herself dreamwords"? Quiet no more, O Courageous One! Quiet no more!)

Does anyone elses head hurt when they try work out who is doing what or not doing much and who is who and what is being given to who, by whom and when, then what is not being seen by who . . . .?

I thought it would be a simple equation:

You do the crime, you do the time (and get dismissed) and NTM as a good moral upstanding Christian organisation would be leading the way in dealing with Crime as it happened.

Thank God for Fanda Eagles once again. The place where people really communicate and we have to say it is very transparent, the world can watch. To bad NTM doesn't communicate where the whole world can see. FE keeps identities secret if a person desires so victims are not identified. Abusers are named, Schemes are uncovered.

I admire Raz for the hours she spends keeping thing straight. Not easy when the schemes keep changing.

Yes my head spins at time Bemused, I think we need a spiny poem to stop the spinning.

I'll be happy to just wear my sparkly Ali Babas and cheer!

And why are you limiting yourself to just a continent?

Dream a little
Think a lot
Doth a chainsaw
Thee hear or spot?

Are there any other avoidance experts out there? Procrastinators? People who forget so many details in life, that they never have a come-back?

We werent taught to fight back, hold our ground, argue with someone bigger and stronger. Document.

The times in my life when the most injustice was done against me, haunt me still.

It confirmed cowardice. My reasons for not fighting back were many. Mostly they involved not wanting to have conflict.

But now, it is a very unsatisfactory way of looking back. And the knife goes in a little deeper when you randomly hear about a situation continuing.

For the people that are wondering what to do with information that you have, I suggest not trying to figure it out on your own. Raz is an excelled resource. Bemused as well . . .and if you need to inject some rage . . .Aussie?

But it's important that we don't rely on our own faulty sense of what is rational. We tell ourselves stories to help us sleep at night. We let what one person said be our mantra for not going forward. The facts can speak for themselves, but often we need support to even say the truth to ourselves. We need detail-minded people who take notes and follow leads. They can make connections, and add numbers. They can help you see when it's just guilt talking.

If you don't want to talk to anyone on here--find someone who has done work with abuse. Taken classes, trainings, written books. Just ask if they can listen and give feedback.

Don't think you have to go at it on your own. We aren't meant for that.