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There's another thing NTM does not do that is common for many businesses, organizations and mission agencies...they don't conduct exit interviews. Our missions pastor recommended that we ask for one, which we did, but it seemed to be considered an odd request and only someone higher up could do it, as in EC. Since that person was very busy and we couldn't seem to coordinate our schedule, we asked if another person who was in leadership in the field where we served last would be available, but he declined because he said he was too close to the situation...as if an exit interview was the chance for us to 'dump', whereas we just wanted to have a 'normal' exit interview where we give our perspective on our experiences and they say how they thought we performed, etc. But anyway, we never did have our interview because it just didn't work with our schedules. Our missions pastor was very unimpressed with this policy (or lack thereof) and seemed to think it unprofessional.

I find this very curious and it allows for speculation...does NTM not want to get feedback from exiting members? Do they not want the chance to hear how NTM could be improved? It would be easy to think that NTM does not care to self-evaluate...and in the case of non-U.S. members, if an exit interview could gather valuable information as to how NTM could improve it's relationship with international members, then why not do them?


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That's one of the big problems.
THEY DO NOT WANT FEEDBACK.
The old system just goes on and on.
And it is destructive.


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I have never worked for a Christian organization where they gave an exit interview. I am sure they don't want to hear what might be said about the organization. This may also be why people stay in so long, thinking their problems are unusual and bad. Most people do not know why people leave missions, churches, or para church organizations. The only people they hear are the angry ones and they push them aside as nonspiritual. The camp I left after nine years did not even give me a good bye, I also watched them do it to a couple that were full time volunteers for a year and a half.


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I think of the ntm I grew up in as a religeous sect not a christian organization. Paul and John and Peter urge us to love one another. Most leaders of ntm showed more love to heathens than to fellow christians.


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These comments about the lack of an exit interview are very thought provoking. NTM was a part of my life for so long that I don't think I had even heard of the idea of an exit interview while I was in the mission. We used to describe being in NTM as being on a fast-moving train. There was no way to get off except to tumble off ungracefully, and with a great deal of pain.

And a Member Care department that doesn't actually care for a member who is on the way out... wow ... that really makes me think too.

Once again, people are only appreciated for what they contribute to The Cause. The needs or concerns of the individual do not matter. Goodbye and good riddance.

I have been working for a secular company for 11 years. I recently had my annual evaluation, where I sat down with my boss and heard and read many good things said about myself: by my boss, and by three co-workers who had submitted evaluations of my contributions to our team. This happens every year. Again, a concept completely foreign to me. I never got called to "the boss'" office in NTM unless I was in trouble.

Several times toward the end of my very encouraging and motivating chat with my boss, she said to me, "What can I do for you, Raz?" I left her office with a bounce in my step and a smile on my face.

"What can I do for you?" vs "What can you do for me/us?"

Wow. What a contrast.


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But Raz, I was given an exit interview all 4 times that they threw me out. Ok, maybe it is being generous with the word interview.


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