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I taught Sunday School as a young teen in a newly planted latin church... not often as I was mostly at the institution they call 'school'.
I wonder if what I said ever made any difference for anyone.

I do have loads of friends from the town we lived in on Facebook. They seem to love me to bits still. I wonder why? the colour of my eyes perhaps! :shock:


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Because you are YOU, perhaps?
And because you really loved them?


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I think a lot of people are glad he's back. Full stop.


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I think the biggest tipoff for me is the preference for a lack of degree. If that's not a red effing flag, I don't know what would be. That's like the crazy baptist/ultra conservative schools here in the US that refuse government money so they can teach whatever in god's name they want without having to answer to anybody.
(Here in America, schools that don't accept government funding are not subject to government regulation as far as education standards go)

A bit of an update: I spoke to my mother last night on the phone, and she was unaware of any shenanigans of any kind, much less the worst kind going on at Numonohi. (My parents have been with Wycliffe since 1975, and in Papua New GUinea since then, allowing for furloughs) She did, however, tell me an interesting story about a family out on one of the islands that got kicked out of their village and hteir home taken from them, since the people who owned it (catholics) were not happy with them trying to set up a new church. They lacked support from the United church in the area because despite wycliffe missionaries already having been there and done translations, working with the existing church, the ntm family felt they weren't believers. This, understandably, insulted the United church and no help was forthcoming when they got kicked out of the village. My mother would never say it (she's a sweet woman, usually) but her voice certainly had a tone of "Well when you insult people like that, what do you expect?" I thought it was a phenomenal example of the superiority complex you guys have discussed.

I am not at all surprised that my mom wasn't aware of anything going on at Numonohi, even though they visit there occasionally for church retreats or womens retreats, and relatively regularly the schools share tournaments. If Wycliffe was able to keep a suicide attempt by one of their students very hush-hush to the point tha tmost of Ukarumpa didn't even know it happened or why the kid was suddenly shipped back with his family to the US 3 days later, or tha tone of the kids received death threats for drug dealing (that didn't actually happen) by PNG police and had to leave the country in 2-3 days, then they're not likely to have any clue what might be going on outside their fence.


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Ghanima makes an interesting point re:"the preference for a lack of degree". I think I know why. If University teaches you anything it is to question the accepted, investigate the evidence and theorize and then come to conclusions for yourself (being conclusions that can be justified by the evidence of course). A rather undesirable trait in NTM's world one would think.

I spent five years at Uni after getting kicked out of NTM's missionary training school. VERY (yes I am shouting) different atmospheres. I was told (by NTM members/friends) that going to Uni was one of the worst things I could do. After all it was only "man's knowledge" and not godly.


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