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As I see it anointing meant God sending a sort of blessing and a calling to show others and the one anointed that He aproved them to lead. I think Paul says that all believers are anointed by God to be His representatives. Does that make all of us perfect? I think that those leaders some how became extremely arrogant and thought themselves superior to the rest of us lowly serfs.

Practically speaking the "anointing" doesn't really mean anything to us other than what Jerry mentioned. In the New Testament era (i.e., since Jesus left), we are all priests. We are all anointed. For reasons that for me come from a similar place as this NTM issue, I don't really believe in the concept as pertaining to any kind of leadership. Roughly, I would have to say, the Old Testament "anointing" was analogous to "the Holy Spirit was upon them." This had practical implications--as in the "positive" things Saul and David did through that power, but also symbolic, as recognized by David and so on when they refused to raise their hand.

What you said though is telling: despite that anointing, these people went on to do horrific things. It's up to you what you want to do with that, but among other things, it illustrates for us, points us toward the necessity of the New Testament priesthood.

1. They weren't even supposed to *have* a king. 2. If they *had* to have one, God was still okay with picking one, but all of the things He foretold as negatives still occurred. 3. Even though they were anointed, these guys still carried on like clowns. 4. Some people, like David, still respected the L's anointing enough to not "raise their hands" to the L.A., but they certainly weren't doing everything they said, either.

Doesn't exactly strike you as the New Testament model for how we become "anointed" and have people serve us, does it?

Does this have anything to do with the mantle? Last I heard, the mantle fell from Paul Fleming onto Ken Johnston "in one sense." After Ken's retirement, the mantle has not been seen again.

Where is infallibility when you really need it? Larry Brown, are you there?

Could try looking in the mission barrel...

And you wonder why NTMers don't get excited about sharing their thoughts and opinions about all this abuse? The purpose for sharing hurts and helping hurting people open up is being compromised. I am sure these kind of posts will drive NTMers away from sharing.

Ignore sin in the camp at your peril Mr. Goring. You may reason that reaching new tribes and all it entails may be more important than bothering with Mks on this website but you may be wise to ask yourself does the Lord agree? Were you ever taught to clean up your messes before going out to play?