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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 2:25 pm 
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You too, are making a lot of sense, Bemused.

There are a handful of us fellow-travelers who have been trudging together down this winding, weary road for so long, we know each other's stories well, and can practically finish each other's sentences.

Sometimes I wonder too, when I will come to an exit ramp and be able to depart this road gracefully.

Each of us will need to listen to our own hearts telling us whether to keeping pressing on, or if our contributions have come to their natural end.

I appreciate each of my friends who have been with me on this journey. Some are still in view. Some are no longer heard from. I respect and support each person and their choices.

Just as I know they respect mine.

Cheers to you, our Downunder friend. Always, Cheers.


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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:21 pm 
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Please don't exit, you are the only hope. I feel I have little to contribute but maybe New Tribes will have to pay for what they have done and I am not necessarily talking about $. I doubt these organisations will cease, which I think they should, but at least they may be held to some accountable and acknowledge what they have allowed. ABWE's exposure would never have happened had it not been for bangladeshmksspeak, we can be thankful for social media. Fullstop.


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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:30 pm 
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I can imagine how you feel, Pamela, and the mks too.
When the GRACE Report came out about Fanda---I think I shook all the way thru when reading.
The culture described was all too familiar even tho I had never been to Africa at that point.
The big questions was--will ntm listen to the recommendations and will they be willing to change.
It turned out that they weren't.
'Time will tell' goes the saying and time has shone that they are not honorable.
ABWE seems to be doing better than that.


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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 11:00 pm 
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I finished reading the report and from what I gather Pii is still doubtful about ABWE's self protection versus child protection. I was cranky at Dr. Al Cockrell's little talk, a bunch of spin is my conclusion. Fullstop.


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 9:25 am 
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Its never quite adequate-------
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 9:28 am 
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mosquito bite wrote:
I can imagine how you feel, Pamela, and the mks too.
When the GRACE Report came out about Fanda---I think I shook all the way thru when reading.
The culture described was all too familiar even tho I had never been to Africa at that point.
The big questions was--will ntm listen to the recommendations and will they be willing to change.
It turned out that they weren't.
'Time will tell' goes the saying and time has shone that they are not honorable.
ABWE seems to be doing better than that.


HA! "Shone" --Let a light shine on the abuse in order to make it right!
"Shown" :oops:
Two of these in 2 days is alot to take.

I blush RED because of my diet. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 9:29 am 
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THEN I got the message about too many smilies!
Haven't seen that in a long while.


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 9:53 am 
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I hadn't watched the video until now, I had read the statement. When I heard Al say that the protection of missionaries and their families must be primary, even if that means the dissolution of the organization, it reminded me of the first few days after reading the Fanda report. I talked at length with a current member of NTM at that time, who expressed the sorrow, using words very much like what Al had said in this video.

What saddened me was that these sentiments didn't seem to endure much past the first weeks and months after the release of the report. That shock, sorrow, repentance, and contrition to the point of wondering if and whether the organization of NTM should endure metabolized into a return to routine, mixed with some lingering regret but with a desire to move forward and leave the past in the past. A few years later, when someone stopped working for the organization because of NTM's present course, they couldn't understand, and wondered what more was expected of the mission in addition to what they were already doing. FandaEagles was brushed off as a place where people were just angry and nothing would be enough for them.

Reflecting on this, I hope for the victims of ABWE that this same evolution of attitude and action does not happen. I also continue to hope for justice and healing for the victims of NTM.

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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 10:25 am 
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Bemused wrote:
SkyeBlue wrote:
Can you imagine a day when NTM issued a statement like this?
http://www.abwe.org/protecting-our-children/



No. The eternal optimist in me says it is unlikely to happen, the realist says it is very unlikely to happen with any real sincerity and at the moment the Pessimistic Agnostic Bemused is in the forefront of this trisplit personality wondering what on earth I'm actually doing here, because NTM has done so much damage in my own journey and yet I survived to tell the tale.

Problem is I've been telling the same truthful tale for nearly 5 years now, put almost as many posts up as fed the masses with loaves and fishes and although I should be celebrating the achievement of the MKs who brought ABWE to it's senses, for once the glass just seems half empty.

Today there is a big part of me that just wants to be Mrs Bemused's best friend, go cycling with Canine Bemused, put out the occassional fire, mend the odd heart or two, go back to writing comedy that made people laugh or childrens stories about a bear in hospital. There is a big part of me who wants to forget NTM ever existed in my life, all the hate, the sadism, the discrimination, the theft, the repititive mindnumbing mantras, the lies the abuse and the manipulation. There is a part that wonders what it would have been like to have had a normal family life, without the big dark secret to hide at all costs, without the narsastic lunancy that was covered with layers of thick piousness, that could spit you out when you were no longer of any use or dared to stand up and tell the truth.

Well done ABWE MKs for getting ABWE to it's knees and credit to ABWE for finally coming out with the truth. The Optimistic Bemused, Realistic Bemused and Pessimistic Bemused don't think NTM will ever be as honourable, but I would like to be proved wrong.

Tomorrow will be another day, maybe I'll be more optimistic then :P


Feeling etter today?

If not, take the exit ramp like Raz sugggested for a while and go smell the roses, the stink from Triberland can get to you after a while, no matter how strong you are!


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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 4:03 am 
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A little bit more optimistic today, thanks for asking :P


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