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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:26 am 
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I think your entire assessment is accurate, Bemused.

This is why I am concerned about the control that NTM wants to have over what type of counseling MKs receive.


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I grew up with a father who tried to control everything he could in as many people as he could influence. He wasn't the only one of his "cultish friends" within NTM who did this.
There was no genuine caring and compassion, there still isn't. Just creepiness, control and curtailment.

The way this is going, the next thing we will be hearing is that NTM is billing the recommended counsellors for referring clients to them and the money is going into the pocket of an "independent" organisation who's board of directors sound rather familiar.

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If the tax department sent NTM the bill for all the medical care that it's MKs are accumulating that would send NTM broke real fast. Goodness knows what I've cost the taxpayer and I'm just one MK.

Shame on you NTM for wasting taxpayers money on what you could have easily have prevented in the first place and now you are ripping off the taxpayer with sham companies all done tax free no doubt.

Come on Jesus, get the whip and clean out your temple again!!!!!!!


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Ooops was supposed to post that in the poetry thread. Redirecting now. 3 - 2 -1


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Oh dear, tricky issue this one and not exactly a compassionate response to it.

So why would anyone doing their life's calling for God actually need antidepressants in the first place? A good health professional treats the cause, or at least spends some time trying to find what the cause is.

I'm not qualified to give an opinion on privacy issues in the U.S., however an employer issuing such a statement in New Zealand would probably be in serious trouble. Asking about such health issues as cardiac, respiratory or diabetic illnesses are justifiable, as in case of emergency it is imperative one knows what one is dealing with, but depressive conditions are a totally different kettle of fish and need to be treated as such.
Almost everyone suffers from depression from time to time. Most of us are fortunate enough to be able to pull out of it and get going under our own steam, but there is a significant percentage of the population who are medicated to help them cope with depressive disorders. Anti depressants have their place in medicine, however looking for the cause first is always the first and best step to take, then going from there.


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