Well, well, well. They have been caught haven't they. Good on you Bemused, I'm glad you are on our side, because you make a formidable opponent (and a damn good friend
).So where is all the money that the Kiwis are donating going to?
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| Author: | Bemused [ Sun May 05, 2013 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | It's not a cult. It's a charity. |
This is the website of Crossview Australia. http://crossview.com.au/ Have a look at it. Can you find any reference to New Tribes Mission? I can't, but I'm human so please do check for me. Crossview has apparently gone their own way from Sanford. Fair enough, that is entirely a matter between the two entities. So New Tribes Mission does not exist in Australasia (that is the continent, which includes New Zealand)? Well here it gets interestsing, because look who is listed as a charity in New Zealand. http://www.register.charities.govt.nz/C ... c96e2d86c6 That is not entirely honest. So Kiwi donators are being misled? Ummm a matter of interpretation. The New Zealand tax department is being misled? I don't think they are going to see it as a matter of interpretation. I wish the tax department more luck in getting any answer out of Crossview than I have had over the last two years. Crossview, you are either part of NTM or you are not. Saying you are not, but using NTM for financial gain is not honest. |
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| Author: | Aussie [ Sun May 05, 2013 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It's not a cult. It's a charity. |
Well, well, well. They have been caught haven't they. Good on you Bemused, I'm glad you are on our side, because you make a formidable opponent (and a damn good friend ).So where is all the money that the Kiwis are donating going to? |
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| Author: | mosquito bite [ Mon May 06, 2013 8:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It's not a cult. It's a charity. |
It's called "globalization." Countries can be kind of independent, but they are still essentially ntm. It comes in handy like when ntm said that ntm canada had to handle the GRACE recommendation concerning Donna Beach. I don't think anything was ever done. It also gives one country an excuse to say they don't know what is going on in another country. It's called the Flying Carpet Syndrome. You know the rug that everything keeps getting swept under? Well, it just flies around the world and never lands anywhere. The garbage flies along behind and drops wherever. Often not in the right place. But this can't just keep on going forever......... |
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| Author: | Aussie [ Mon May 06, 2013 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It's not a cult. It's a charity. |
It can be called "the man in the moon", but it is fraud to call yourself something you say you aren't so you can get tax benefits. There is no way God would be impressed with this!!!! |
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| Author: | Bemused [ Mon May 06, 2013 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It's not a cult. It's a charity. |
When I was a MK in PNG the field chairman was Dean Van Vliet. I liked him, he was a kind gentle man. He went back to the States and became part of the Executive Committee. We had a dispute over the confiscation of my parents house by the PNG field and I won. He did not reply to my letter, he tried to blackmail my parents. Then he was dismissed from NTM for shredding evidence re the Senegal investigation. He is not listed as one of NTMs staff. However have a look at this: http://www.ntm.org/ntmhomes/residents.php Look at the letter "V" So one can be dismissed for gross misconduct and then just happen to be still living in a home provided by the very organisation that dismissed one. Does this ring alarm bells with anyone else? |
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| Author: | mosquito bite [ Mon May 06, 2013 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It's not a cult. It's a charity. |
Of course. |
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| Author: | Aussie [ Mon May 06, 2013 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It's not a cult. It's a charity. |
Look at page 63 of the Fanda Eagles report!!!! This must be gutting for the Fanda victims. Look at all the smoke pouring out of NTM. Ron Abram back in Senegal, Dean Van Vliet in the NTM retirement home, Crossview pretending it isn't NTM but then saying it is for tax purposes. And yet we are being told, just because there is smoke there isn't fire. There is so much smoke, the fire can't be seen!!!!! So what should we do? I know lets shoot Bemused, because he is the messenger that has brought to our attention two of these new developments. He's being mean and he has a bitter spirit. That's NTM think. Let's demand an explanation. We are being lied to left, right and centre. If NTM can so blatantly defy the GRACE recommendations and go back on their word, who in their right mind believes they are going to get it right with IHART? |
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| Author: | JerryB [ Mon May 06, 2013 2:34 pm ] |
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| Author: | JerryB [ Mon May 06, 2013 2:41 pm ] |
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| Author: | JerryB [ Mon May 06, 2013 2:48 pm ] |
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