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 Post subject: TWO MILLION!!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:54 am 
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We reached it!

Two million visits by Christmas Day in America!

What an amazing gift!

Thank you again and again, Kari, Bonnie and the true Fanda Eagles!

We are but grateful reapers of your courage! You forged the way, and we are humble but faithful followers!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:48 pm 
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Too true, some sow, some water, some weed, some pick and some process. All so that many may partake and benefit.

Mrs Bemused would of course point out that humility and following are not two of Bemused's better characteristics. In reply I would like to point out that life with Bemused is definitely not predictable and boring. And on those two points we would like to agree that we agree.

So where to next?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:23 pm 
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Where to next???

My guess is to court.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:01 pm 
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You may well be right. The Israelites only had to wander round in the wildnerness for 40 years before they could enter the Promised Land.
While the legal option is not an option for me personally, due to geographic and personal history considerations, to those who feel that this will at least get them closer to the Promised Land of Justice and healing, I lend my full support. 40 years is to long to wait for justice, this should never have got this far and now the price to be paid is alas much higher than would have been expected if it had been dealt with properly in the first place.

This is not the accidental manslaughter of one or two innocent souls by a few bad men. It is the systematic murder of souls by a system that went out of control and stopped good men and women from taking the action that any member of the human race with a reasonable conscience would have taken to stop this level of child abuse, the tip of which we are only seeing. Who knows what else is out there, beneath the tip, I dread to think.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:51 pm 
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The 2 million mark!!!
Thank you, Kari and Bonnie!
Thank you, Eagles!

We have lost the chance to have an expert GRACE investigation for each field.

But we WILL keep on.

To quote someone from the historic past of abuses:
"The train is on the track, so you'd better get onboard."

It is very important to be on the right track.........


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:52 pm 
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Maire wrote:
Where to next???

My guess is to court.


A good guess.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:14 am 
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mosquito bite wrote:
Maire wrote:
Where to next???

My guess is to court.


A good guess.



It seems to be the only way to get the truth out in the open...


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:51 am 
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Maire wrote:
mosquito bite wrote:
Maire wrote:
Where to next???

My guess is to court.


A good guess.



It seems to be the only way to get the truth out in the open...


In what concrete ways have the lawsuits gotten the truth out in the open so far?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:00 am 
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As each victim of abuse steps forward, finds their voice and even sees that justice can be served the truth slowly comes forward.

If I had not heard of the fact that someone hada gone thru the legal system I would never have considered even telling my story... what good would it do to tell what has happened if no one is listening... I see now, even if the road would be very difficult, that legal action is an option. And by telling my story maybe more will step forward. More truth will come of it all.

No, it is not moving forward fast. NTM is doing all it can to make it go away by the looks of things. BUT there are several of us from Panama who have been sexually molested, abused and/or raped. 6 months ago I thought I was the ONLY one. I am NOT. There are more.

Truth is seeping out of the cracks... the picture perfect scenario will not hold up. I just hope that other abused mks will find their voices and add to the snowball effect that will crack the facade and lay open the real contents of the rotten eggs/basket of tainted and rotten apples...

Together we can shine the light on the reality of what is supposed to be God's work.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:10 pm 
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Demostenes Dalai Mud Lama wrote:
Maire wrote:
Maire wrote:
Where to next???

My guess is to court.





It seems to be the only way to get the truth out in the open...


In what concrete ways have the lawsuits gotten the truth out in the open so far?



For some of us, our MK experience was one of daily abuse and lies. And for some of us our experience as adults has been a litany of further abuse and lies, each time we have tried to express any opinions that go against those who support NTM, namely our families, we are labeled and denegrated. There has been no apology from NTM, our families are 'divorced' from us, we see and hear the lies still being told to maintain the facade that all is well.
Pretending to play 'happy families' is not an option, for it would mean stepping back into the weird world of half truths and lies. NTM won't tell the whole truth unless it is a last resort of no further options. Legal cases probably won't bring the truth into the open, as most of them won't get to a court, they will be settled out of court at the last minute and the evidence supressed in a confidentiallity arrangement. But each legal case taken will hit where it hurts the most, financially. And each dip into the financial reserves is going to have to be explained, especially as the barrel runs dry for then the appeal will have to start for more donations or assets will have to be sold, both scenarios will take some explaining.

For some of us there is nothing to loose, because of NTM group think our families are gone. There is only our own welfare to take care of now and if legal action is in some way healing, then so be it.


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