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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:27 pm 
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Ohhh ... Skylark .... I am actually crying.

It doesn't take much to make this Mama cry. :cry:

I wish I could hug you till you could stop shaking.

And I too wish many, many other things ....

Your mother was wrong. None of us were EVER called to sacrifice our children for the gospel. Our God never called for child sacrifice like the gods of the heathen in the Old Testament times did. NEVER!!!

Have you read my Open Letter to Missionary Parents? It is posted under its own thread here in Miscellaneous. I wrote it to people like your mother. And other mothers. And fathers. But it is for you, too, Skylark.


This website is very secure. The administrators have made sure of that.

If you have more you want to say, we are here to listen.

We are also available through private messages.

Thank you for having the courage to post here. You are very brave.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:30 pm 
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The "zebra" is definitely losing the stripes. Eventually missions will be exposed for their own sins. The more we expose them the quicker this will happen. REPORT you abuser not to the mission but to this site http://www.ice.gov/exec/forms/hsi-tips/tips.asp

This is a general form but fill it out and send it. They helped in this recent case they may be able to help you.

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Apparently "We are all called to sacrifice for the gospel honey". Thanks mother.

No that is not true. God hates the sacrifice of children. I am so sorry but I admire your courage. There are many here who are 1001 % behind you. Raz is correct.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:29 pm 
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Wasn't the primary sin of the Canaanites for which God punished them that they sacrificed their children?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:34 pm 
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Not an expert on OT, but that sounds about right.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:37 pm 
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I am so sorry Skylark for your pain and trauma. I admire your bravery in posting on here.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:51 pm 
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Skylark wrote:
I am glad GuineaMK has good memories.

My NTM abuser had toes that clicked when he walked.

He was good at maintenance. He oiled doors. They did not squeak at night.

But his toes clicked.

Those are my memories from 15 years ago.

Apparently "We are all called to sacrifice for the gospel honey". Thanks mother.

I'm only posting for the first time on my friends computer (she is watching me shake). You see I am scared as the site stores the IP address. I just wanted to say my memories in response to GuineaMK. I am glad for him/her. I wish. I wish many things.


Oh, Skylark, I am so sorry that those are your memories...thank you for having the courage to share for the first time even though you are scared. You might have been shaking, but you have great courage.

Nobody is ever called to sacrifice what you did for the gospel or for Jesus...oh how that breaks his heart if that's what people think.


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This statement really bothers me. I was going to let it go but I just can't. Here it is in part referring to NTM by Guineamk, "humbly bearing the heat and taking responsibility." I just can't get my head around this statement. I can't see the word "humbly" referring to NTM. Where is the evidence of humility on the part of NTM? Causing the abused to go to court doesn't remind me of humility. the Webster's seventh New Collegiate Dictionary gives this definition of humble, "to make humble in spirit or manner, to destroy the power, independence, or prestige of. Does that sound like NTM? I think not. Full stop.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:38 am 
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AnotherMK, you are right on. We went thru that very recently and still hear about new cases.
Pamela, Humble??? You are so right. Humble people repent and do all they can to help those THEY victimized.
Wish we didn't have to be so negative.
But the negatives HAVE NOT BEEN RIGHTED yet.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:39 am 
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And some of the recent leaders are STILLthe old school people who kept this environment going.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:43 pm 
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mosquito bite wrote:
And some of the recent leaders are STILLthe old school people who kept this environment going.


Something that really bothers and frankly, frightens me are that some of the leaders who were so abusive on the field are now moving up to higher positions of leadership in Sanford and elsewhere. Therefore, the abuse will continue, the internal culture will remain the same and nothing much will change. No current member of NTM is safe, if they attempt to speak up or speak out or do anything appearing to be disloyal, they will most likely begin to experience pushback, being marginalized and abandoned. It would be an interesting experiment for current members...try something truly daring and start talking. Start talking about the GRACE report or Fanda or any current investigation or Joel Price or Scott Kennell...try some constructive criticism of NTM and start talking about how things need to change. Advocate for some of those changes. And not just with one person in a private conversation, try it with different members at different levels of leadership. Watch what happens, you might be surprised.

If you are too fearful to try this or feel guilty for being 'disloyal', then that is a sign that you are part of a very closed organization. This is not healthy for you or your family and you might be in danger...time to think about making a change...


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