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Just for interests sake, thought it might be an idea to see how we are collectively doing.

Oops, think the poll dropped off the radar.

Think of it as a check up with a friendly Shrink, confidentiality gauaranteed .

You forgot one - fog.

I voted "Pretty much given up hope" but that only applies to the topic of these forums and NTM. I don't think NTM cares at all about this and will really do nothing effective about it regardless of what the IHART reports and recommendations are.

I didn't vote because I am an outsider looking in but if I was a part of this sin saga I would have voted for number 5, 6, 7, or 8, couldn't decide on just one. Full stop.

An interesting journey...understatement...so much has happened and it will be interesting so see where the journey ends. Wonderful things have happened and are happening..... I have learnt so much. What has been enlightening is site etiquette.

I was curious as to why there were more cheerleaders than battle worn players posting on here for some time until I realized that victims who shared "too much" or expressed anger were being labeled "toxic" or it had been said amongst the group that " that various individuals lives were a mess". Discrediting them out right... I myself included.

If you are a victim I would recommend taking this site in small bites it can become a place where as a victim you might get stuck going around in circles. Be careful what you share here and be wise.

We love the cheerleaders.....everyone loves the cheerleaders! Where would the victims be without them? Victims have to deal with the reality of having suffered in the game and visiting this site can stir up a terrible mountain of emotions from the past. Another reason to take bite sizes and measure carefully the amount of time you spend here.

Here's to the victims who actually had to play the game.

Thanks for your post, radioshack. Wise and insightful words, and I know they come from your own difficult experiences.

The emotions you feel as a survivor are all legitimate, understandable, and very real. I am sad that you have felt discredited. I wish this forum was a place of safety for all to feel validated. But I know that your caution is well-founded.

Thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for your good advice to others who may be wondering what kind of response they might receive if they get honest and real here.

I know that as much as we dream of a safe and welcoming haven here on the internet, it is impossible for any of us to make it perfect.

I am grateful to hear that for you, wonderful things have happened and are happening. I hope wonderful things will continue to happen.

For us all. Posters, readers, survivors, cheerleaders.

All of us.

Cheers!

radioshack, your post should be helpful and comforting to the victims out there. I can't even imagine how some of them are feeling right now as this NTM sin saga continues to drag on. I believe with all my heart if NTM was pro active in bringing this sin saga to a close it would be the best medicine these victims could possible want. How they can continue "business as usual" after I read the GRACE report is beyond me. If they would only follow what GRACE recommended on all their fields what a difference it could make. They can't change the past but they could certainly help the victims of their past. Full stop.

From where I'm sitting, there is no fast action coming out of NTM. How hard is it to make an attempt to contact every past missionary and thereby every MK? There is no positive action at all coming out of what was NTM Australia.

I get to deal with a bunch of religous nutbars who think that what happened to MKs was minor, if it happened at all and that somehow they have diplomatic immunity from any consequence of the criminal acts that took place, because they feel that they are/were serving god. To make matters worse, they still have mental (possibly financial in some cases) over some victims still, so we end up in the twilight zone of victims not speaking out against a system that abused them terribly, because they still have a sense of loyalty to the system or their friends and family still in the organisation. What they don't want to know is how many of their friends and family were also committing abuse, it's not a nice question, but it is one that we all have to face. Look at my own case; a neighbour jailed for offences, a dormparent who committed a long string of sexual offences, two others who were paedophiles that regularly came into our home. Now I was only on one field for 6 years, so extrapilate that rate of offending across several decades and many other fields and the figures become a nightmare.

So hence the poll, how are we all doing? How are we feeling 9 - 15 months on?

Bemused, good summary of this whole wicked situation. I just talked to a woman in the US who was sexually assaulted by an ABWE missionary on US soil and she said the exact same thing. At the end of the day most people do not care that missionary children were being abused even if it was sexual, let alone other abuses that were taking place. The balance theory, you know, they did more good than bad. Shame on them. Their good deeds will be wood, hay and stubble. Full stop.