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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:18 pm 
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... y/1674037/

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"Former Penn State president Graham Spanier and two other former administrators were charged Thursday with perjury, obstruction of justice and endangering children in an alleged coverup of sexual abuse of children by assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.

Prosecutors said all three officials knew of complaints involving Sandusky showering with boys in 1998 and 2001 and failed to take action to stop it.

"This is about three powerful and influential men, three men who used their positions at Penn State to cover up and conceal the activities of (Sandusky),'' said Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly in announcing the charges."

"The three administrators were accused of turning a blind eye to Sandusky's "serial predatory acts" -- some of which occurred at Penn State athletic facilities -- by failing to notify police or even attempt to learn the identity of the victims."

Where have we heard of this kind of behavior before, on the part of those who should have known better and done better???


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About this time the missions of the world should be putting up their hands and saying "look at us, we did it right, we turned in our one and only paedophile and we have made sure there never was a second".

Instead the missions (and other organisations) of the world will not be putting their hand up, but trembling and ducking for cover, because perjury is a serious offence and has serious consequences.

Perjury, as I understand it, is lying to a court. And a judge does not like having justice obstructed especially when children are endangered.

Take heed all thee who say, I didn't know, it wasn't my responsibility . . .


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I decided to read this index because I just DO NOT understand why my dad is angry for what they did to his little girl? He doesn 't even flinch. He knows one of his leaders touched me. I speak and his head in is in the Bible or on his laptop. Is he happy it happened to me? He may not do his interview. DADDY look at me. They were BAD. I didn't make it up. I am dying. Literally. If I don't get help ASAP I might die or be serverely incapaticiatated. I am a Mom. I have three girls who their father doesn't believe in God at all. Why. All of US. You dad and NTM. He said God. HA right.
I divorced him because he wasn't a Christian, he cheated, abused and sexually manipulated me. For you Daddy. And you still rejected me. Again the bad girl. My girls, your grandkids, and soon to be great granddaughter need me. But if I don't get help I may die by my own hand, my physical health or another phyhsical beating, run out of fear or jail because Mom keeps putting me there. WHY? What did I ever do to you. I love you Daddy and I love God.
You always do everything else for me. Stop. I am 40 I know how to take care of myself, lift a box and repair things. PROTECT me. Feel something for me. Do you blame me that we got kicked out. Guess what I blame you. You didn't think. You only thought of you and how you wanted to serve God. Guess what I serve God simply by knowing right verses wrong. Laws! You took me to a dangerous country. Where sex trafficking was going on. I left the property for hours and NOT ONE of you noticed or cared. I learned spanish. I cleaned with the villagers. I help the kids. I WAS the MISSIONARY . At 10
I have so much to say to you. You don't really listen. Why Daddy? I give up. Forget you. You had a miracle in front of your face. STOP telling me all I need is God. I have him. FYI I have your mom for an angel. I will be in Heaven and I never question it. Never.
All the parents that knew, blamed the kids, came home and abused their kids instead of facing their demons. Ummmmm you were wrong. The offenders. It is simple
You BROKE THE LAW. USA law. One nation founded under God. Elementary. You need to go to jail. Be on the registered offenders list. Never be allowed to be alone with kids or near them. You have kids and grandkids. Say good bye. Why is this so hard to understand??? God never said you can hide behind religion. He said be the example. He sacrificed and endured pain for all of us. For his kids. Weren't you paying attention. You too were supposed to sacrifice for your children and the un saved. You aren't a super hero because you said so and you joined NTM. Do you really think so. Your kids are in the way of your ministry or something. You offenders are nothing but pimps and Hos. Sorry I call it like I see it. And don't bother saying sorry. For what. Sorry means I knew it was wrong but a human and stumbled. You killed a child. The child in me. You ruined my life. That isn't an ooops.
I have PTSD and you let mom force my triggers out to control me. Since you won't help I protected myself. All I did was try and tell her to please not get so close. It sets me into panic. She lied. I went to jail. I paid my dues. Probation, classes, fines, work crew and no a record. There goes my Mortgage license. Remember me that stopped the biggest Mortgage fraud sacam in NW and saved our economy from completely crashing. Can't do that anymore. But I paid my dues because the judge said you commited a crime although my heart goes out to you. And that's right! So offenders let me lead you now. You are bad, you need to be punished and you don't seem to be someone who will ever have Christ in your heart. Sound familiar. But this leader won't make you let me touch you. No thanks. I am your leader, that is wrong!

Sorry everyone...just found my voice. I am a writer and this is the only place right now I have to get my feelings out. It helps me heal!
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How do we explain the (non)response of male leadership?

Perhaps if I venture into trying to answer this, it might shed some light how some of us ended up with the fathers we did. Lets have a look into the male mentality of some male missionaries (this will be controversial, but lets see what I can come up with and then go from there).

Imagine you are an ordinary suburban man, you have a wife and 2.4 kids. You found Jesus some time ago in your past and you get up and go to work in a good but not that exciting job. On Sundays you go to church and you meet with like minded friends and life is comfortable and a bit ordinary. You see slide shows of exotic places and hear missionaries speak in your church.
Then one day someone from a mission comes to speak and they offer to your ears what you really want. Adventure, fame, excitement, someone else to pay for it and a Divine calling to explain it all. And you are off.
The training is a bit radical, but you learn that you are the best of the best and this entitles you to feel better than the rest of christiandom, after all you are going to do what God Himself told you. And you get to be what you really wanted, a big fish in a little bowl. The wife has to do what you tell her, because that is how it works and the kids are little soldiers in your battle group, of which you are the Sergent Major.
You get to the field, and lo and behold the natives call you "Master", they clean for you, they make life pretty comfortable (all for not much an hour) and you write letters home telling the good (but not as dedicted as you) folks that life is tough at the front, you wish they could be here, but hey don't feel to bad, just send money and you'll fight the good fight on their behalf.
And for some men, the power they have goes way beyond what they can control. They get hooked. Suddenly God is not just talking to them, somehow they morh into being a god in their own mind. And some end up in boarding schools where there are lots of little minds to control and bodies to explore. And they do, oh yes they do! Other men have some idea of what is going on, but they close a blind eye. Maybe they are to scared to speak out, maybe they have been brainwashed to or maybe they don't want anyone looking at what they have been up to, but the last thing they want is to pull the plug on the comfortable lifestyle with its trappings of power, fame and leisure, so they do and say nothing.
So each MK staggers out of the boarding school, into the broad daylight of the real world. Some go straight back into the mission, some get on with life in the real world and some struggle to adjust.

So to summarise, it is all about power. Some men get hooked on it and anything that comes in the way of their own power they can dismiss in their own warped minds as being "out of fellowship", "having issues" or "having a bitter spirit". And some of us have fathers who have sold us for 30 pieces of silver, just to keep their grip on their power. They will kick and scream till the day they die, they will sell their own children, but they will not give up the desire to control others because they are addicted to power and whatever it takes they will hold on to it and the worst hypocrasy of it all, they will do it in Jesus name and far to often get away with it.


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Yes Bemused I have seen it more than once. Good thing not all are like that. I know men who just wanted to do the work and it took all their time they were not worried about power and sought no positions of power. They are the ones loved by the nationals. But sad to say their children went to the boarding schools where the other kind of men were. With threats of hellfire the kids of both kinds of men told their fathers nothing. How do these now good old men handle the situation when they find out what happened to their children. I know of these men they are not power seekers and now they are in depression, very angry, not knowing what to do. I believe we need to help them get together because they feel very alone. They don't hear anyone of their peers saying anything. They like many of us MK were and think they are all alone. How can we help these good men? And also the mothers?


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So very true, probably the majority of male missionaries were good fathers, good missionaries and did their job to the best of their ability. It was the boarding schools that were predominantly the problem and therefore the focus of our attention.

Some of us would love to have a father who showed a human side and cried with us as the full horror of what happened to so many is revealed. Have a father who cared for other MKs, not dismissed them as weak individuals who should have just got over their problems, if there were really any problems in the first place.
But for all the good fathers out there, there are some who have turned into monsters who are so warped they care only for themselves and the god they have created in their own mind.
And the best and saddest thing that some of us can do, is make sure we do not turn out like them! That comes at a high cost often, but it is the right and honest thing to do. For some have to make a choice between family loyalty and what is right, between keeping the silence or speaking out so that others can heal. It's not an easy choice for most, it takes great courage.


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