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And an update on the Jane Doe 25 lawsuit, which is apparently heading toward a settlement.

David Doyle, NTM's attorney, is once again unavailable. Imagine that.


http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocke ... 12CA004962

Detailed Information for Case 2012CA004962

Case Number: 2012CA004962 Judge: MICHAEL J. RUDISILL
Date Filed: 09/28/2012 Case Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE
Plantiffs: Defendants:
JANE DOE NO 25
NEW TRIBES MISSION INC

39 06/03/2014 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE & EMAIL DESIGNATION BY JEFF HERMAN OBO PLTF
38 06/03/2014 N NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY BY DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ
37 04/01/2014 N NOTICE OF SERVICE OF PROPOSAL FOR SETTLEMENT BY PLTF
36 01/14/2014 RADF REPLY TO AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES IN ANSWER TO AMND CMPL BY PLTF
35 01/14/2014 AAFD ANS AND AFFIRM DEFENSES BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSIONS INC TO PLTF AMENDED COMPLAINT
34 01/10/2014 M MOTION FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT AGST DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC BY PLTF
33 12/26/2013 R RESPONSE TO DEFTS REQ/PRODUCE BY PLTF
32 12/26/2013 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV OF ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES (1ST SET) BY PLTF
31 09/18/2013 NFIL NOTICE OF FILING PRIVILEGE LOG BY DEFT (ATTACHED)
30 09/18/2013 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV OF ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES UNVERIFIED TO PLTF BY DEFT
29 09/17/2013 AM AMENDED COMPLAINT BY PLTF
28 06/11/2013 OD20 ORDER OF DISMISSAL/20 DAYS TO AMEND AS TO COUNT II RUDISILL 06/11/13 (SEE ORDER)
27 06/06/2013 MLAW MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO NEW TRIBES MISSION INC`S MOTN TO DISMISS BY PLTF
26 05/28/2013 DEML NOTICE OF DESIGNATION OF E-MAIL ADDRESS (2ND AMND) BY JEFF HERMAN OBO PLTF
25 05/23/2013 R RESPONSE TO PLTFS 1ST REQ/FOR PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS BY DEFT
24 04/16/2013 RQPD REQUEST TO PRODUCE (1ST) TO PLTF BY DEFT
23 04/16/2013 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV OF INTERROGATORIES (1ST SET) TO PLTF BY DEFT
22 04/08/2013 DEML NOTICE OF DESIGNATION OF E-MAIL ADDRESS (AMND) BY JEFFREY M HERMAN OBO PLTF
21 04/05/2013 N NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY FROM DAVID O DOYLE, JR
20 03/21/2013 O ORDER (AGREED) ON PLTF'S MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY RESPONSES -GRANTED- RUDISILL 3/20/13
19 03/08/2013 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 6/11/13 @ 9:30AM
18 02/13/2013 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 13-02-S FROM DIV K TO DIV G
17 12/26/2012 R RESPONSE TO PLTFS 2ND RQST FOR ADMISSIONS BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
16 12/07/2012 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING 2/14/13 @ 1:30PM
15 12/04/2012 O ORDER (AGREED) APPOINTING COMMISSIONER IN COMMONWEALTH OF VA/GRANTED/ALVA 12/3/12 (SEE ORDER)
14 11/30/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS TO DEFT BY PLTF
13 11/30/2012 M MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA BY PLTF
12 11/28/2012 R RESPONSE TO 1ST REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
11 11/26/2012 M MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY RESPONSES BY PLTF JANE DOE #25
10 11/05/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS PROPOUNDED TO DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC BY PLTF
9 11/01/2012 M MOTION TO DISMISS PLTFS CMPL BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION
8 10/19/2012 DEML DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS OF JEFFREY M HERMAN OBO PLTF JANE DOE #25
7 10/16/2012 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE & DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS BY GRAYROBINSON PA & DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ OBO DEFT
6 10/11/2012 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV 1ST SET OF INTERROG TO DEFT BY PLTF
5 10/11/2012 RQPD 1ST REQUEST TO PRODUCE TO DEFT BY PLTF
4 10/01/2012 SUMI SUMMONS ISSUED - 1
3 09/28/2012 CCST CIVIL COVER SHEET
2 09/28/2012 CMPL COMPLAINT FILED
1 09/28/2012 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 12-16-S

Raz or anyone else way up North, can you check something for me?

Being the inquisitive type I thought I'd see if Mr David O Doyle Jr Esq was a member of NTM and I typed in "New Tribes Mission" into google.
Well blow me down with a feather, when I click on the usual link, there are only 7 couples and 1 single guy and they all have a connection with New Zealand (i.e. at least one of them is a citizen here or they are listed as being from Australia, but are really Kiwis just the person doing the data entry hasn't figured out that Australia is over there and New Zealand is about here ). When it says search for missionaries, there is no one else, even when I type in the name of missionaries who were with NTM last time I was doing some research.

This is what I found: http://nz.ntm.org/missionaries

I know the Australians disappeared off the NTM website a while back, but now everyone else has disappeared and it's just the Kiwis.

Unless something is identifying my computer as being from "Downunder" and I can only see Kiwis. Hang on lets try typing in NTM USA.

Ah ha, so that is where everyone has gone. O.k. crisis over, I've found them

Just to keep us informed, there is forward movement in the Jane Doe 25 lawsuit also.

A hearing is scheduled for the 29th of this month.


http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocke ... 12CA004962

Detailed Information for Case 2012CA004962

Case Number: 2012CA004962 Judge: MICHAEL J. RUDISILL
Date Filed: 09/28/2012 Case Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE
Plantiffs: Defendants:
JANE DOE NO 25
NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
43 08/28/2014 O ORDER GRANTING PLTF'S MOTN TO APPEAR BY TELEPHONE - JUDGE RUDISILL 8/27/14
42 08/21/2014 M MOTION TO APPEAR BY TELEPHONE BY PLTF
41 08/21/2014 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 9/29/14 @ 9AM
40 08/19/2014 M MOTION TO COMPEL PRODUCTION OF DOCS & ANSWERS TO INTERROGS, AND FOR AN IN CAMERA INSPECTION OF DOCS CLAIMED TO BE PRIVILEGED BY PLTF
39 06/03/2014 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE & EMAIL DESIGNATION BY JEFF HERMAN OBO PLTF
38 06/03/2014 N NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY BY DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ
37 04/01/2014 N NOTICE OF SERVICE OF PROPOSAL FOR SETTLEMENT BY PLTF
36 01/14/2014 RADF REPLY TO AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES IN ANSWER TO AMND CMPL BY PLTF
35 01/14/2014 AAFD ANS AND AFFIRM DEFENSES BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSIONS INC TO PLTF AMENDED COMPLAINT
34 01/10/2014 M MOTION FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT AGST DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC BY PLTF
33 12/26/2013 R RESPONSE TO DEFTS REQ/PRODUCE BY PLTF
32 12/26/2013 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV OF ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES (1ST SET) BY PLTF
31 09/18/2013 NFIL NOTICE OF FILING PRIVILEGE LOG BY DEFT (ATTACHED)
30 09/18/2013 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV OF ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES UNVERIFIED TO PLTF BY DEFT
29 09/17/2013 AM AMENDED COMPLAINT BY PLTF
28 06/11/2013 OD20 ORDER OF DISMISSAL/20 DAYS TO AMEND AS TO COUNT II RUDISILL 06/11/13 (SEE ORDER)
27 06/06/2013 MLAW MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO NEW TRIBES MISSION INC`S MOTN TO DISMISS BY PLTF
26 05/28/2013 DEML NOTICE OF DESIGNATION OF E-MAIL ADDRESS (2ND AMND) BY JEFF HERMAN OBO PLTF
25 05/23/2013 R RESPONSE TO PLTFS 1ST REQ/FOR PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS BY DEFT
24 04/16/2013 RQPD REQUEST TO PRODUCE (1ST) TO PLTF BY DEFT
23 04/16/2013 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV OF INTERROGATORIES (1ST SET) TO PLTF BY DEFT
22 04/08/2013 DEML NOTICE OF DESIGNATION OF E-MAIL ADDRESS (AMND) BY JEFFREY M HERMAN OBO PLTF
21 04/05/2013 N NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY FROM DAVID O DOYLE, JR
20 03/21/2013 O ORDER (AGREED) ON PLTF'S MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY RESPONSES -GRANTED- RUDISILL 3/20/13
19 03/08/2013 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 6/11/13 @ 9:30AM
18 02/13/2013 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 13-02-S FROM DIV K TO DIV G
17 12/26/2012 R RESPONSE TO PLTFS 2ND RQST FOR ADMISSIONS BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
16 12/07/2012 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING 2/14/13 @ 1:30PM
15 12/04/2012 O ORDER (AGREED) APPOINTING COMMISSIONER IN COMMONWEALTH OF VA/GRANTED/ALVA 12/3/12 (SEE ORDER)
14 11/30/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS TO DEFT BY PLTF
13 11/30/2012 M MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA BY PLTF
12 11/28/2012 R RESPONSE TO 1ST REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
11 11/26/2012 M MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY RESPONSES BY PLTF JANE DOE #25
10 11/05/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS PROPOUNDED TO DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC BY PLTF
9 11/01/2012 M MOTION TO DISMISS PLTFS CMPL BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION
8 10/19/2012 DEML DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS OF JEFFREY M HERMAN OBO PLTF JANE DOE #25
7 10/16/2012 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE & DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS BY GRAYROBINSON PA & DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ OBO DEFT
6 10/11/2012 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV 1ST SET OF INTERROG TO DEFT BY PLTF
5 10/11/2012 RQPD 1ST REQUEST TO PRODUCE TO DEFT BY PLTF
4 10/01/2012 SUMI SUMMONS ISSUED - 1
3 09/28/2012 CCST CIVIL COVER SHEET
2 09/28/2012 CMPL COMPLAINT FILED
1 09/28/2012 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 12-16-S

Oh great.

The hearing for the Jane Doe 25 lawsuit, which was supposed to be held on Sept. 29, is now not going to happen till Feb. 2 of 2015!

I am hearing that MKs who are waiting ... and waiting ... are being told that David Doyle, NTM's attorney, is just too busy, and they must wait some more.

What in the world? New Tribes Mission, if Mr Doyle is too busy, then perhaps you need to hire an additional lawyer or two!

This feels like a stalling tactic, frankly .... and it only serves to exasperate further those who have legitimate concerns they are waiting to see addressed through a legal process.

(And for those who think that MKs who are going this route are just mean and vindictive, let me state that in every case I am familiar with, this step is being taken only after other attempts to communicate with or get help from NTM have failed.)

Really, NTM .... you need to be expediting this process, not delaying it. Because we have lost trust in you, these delays just fuel speculation that you are up to something sinister or unethical.

Get some more help, before the pressure gets raised even higher.


http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocke ... 12CA004962

Detailed Information for Case 2012CA004962

Case Number: 2012CA004962 Judge: MICHAEL J. RUDISILL
Date Filed: 09/28/2012 Case Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE
Plantiffs: Defendants:
JANE DOE NO 25
NEW TRIBES MISSION INC

45 11/03/2014 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 2/2/15 @ 1:30PM
44 09/19/2014 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV OF ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES (AMENDED VERIFIED) BY DEFT
43 08/28/2014 O ORDER GRANTING PLTF'S MOTN TO APPEAR BY TELEPHONE - JUDGE RUDISILL 8/27/14
42 08/21/2014 M MOTION TO APPEAR BY TELEPHONE BY PLTF
41 08/21/2014 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 9/29/14 @ 9AM
40 08/19/2014 M MOTION TO COMPEL PRODUCTION OF DOCS & ANSWERS TO INTERROGS, AND FOR AN IN CAMERA INSPECTION OF DOCS CLAIMED TO BE PRIVILEGED BY PLTF
39 06/03/2014 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE & EMAIL DESIGNATION BY JEFF HERMAN OBO PLTF
38 06/03/2014 N NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY BY DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ
37 04/01/2014 N NOTICE OF SERVICE OF PROPOSAL FOR SETTLEMENT BY PLTF
36 01/14/2014 RADF REPLY TO AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES IN ANSWER TO AMND CMPL BY PLTF
35 01/14/2014 AAFD ANS AND AFFIRM DEFENSES BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSIONS INC TO PLTF AMENDED COMPLAINT
34 01/10/2014 M MOTION FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT AGST DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC BY PLTF
33 12/26/2013 R RESPONSE TO DEFTS REQ/PRODUCE BY PLTF
32 12/26/2013 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV OF ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES (1ST SET) BY PLTF
31 09/18/2013 NFIL NOTICE OF FILING PRIVILEGE LOG BY DEFT (ATTACHED)
30 09/18/2013 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV OF ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES UNVERIFIED TO PLTF BY DEFT
29 09/17/2013 AM AMENDED COMPLAINT BY PLTF
28 06/11/2013 OD20 ORDER OF DISMISSAL/20 DAYS TO AMEND AS TO COUNT II RUDISILL 06/11/13 (SEE ORDER)
27 06/06/2013 MLAW MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO NEW TRIBES MISSION INC`S MOTN TO DISMISS BY PLTF
26 05/28/2013 DEML NOTICE OF DESIGNATION OF E-MAIL ADDRESS (2ND AMND) BY JEFF HERMAN OBO PLTF
25 05/23/2013 R RESPONSE TO PLTFS 1ST REQ/FOR PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS BY DEFT
24 04/16/2013 RQPD REQUEST TO PRODUCE (1ST) TO PLTF BY DEFT
23 04/16/2013 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV OF INTERROGATORIES (1ST SET) TO PLTF BY DEFT
22 04/08/2013 DEML NOTICE OF DESIGNATION OF E-MAIL ADDRESS (AMND) BY JEFFREY M HERMAN OBO PLTF
21 04/05/2013 N NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY FROM DAVID O DOYLE, JR
20 03/21/2013 O ORDER (AGREED) ON PLTF'S MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY RESPONSES -GRANTED- RUDISILL 3/20/13
19 03/08/2013 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 6/11/13 @ 9:30AM
18 02/13/2013 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 13-02-S FROM DIV K TO DIV G
17 12/26/2012 R RESPONSE TO PLTFS 2ND RQST FOR ADMISSIONS BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
16 12/07/2012 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING 2/14/13 @ 1:30PM
15 12/04/2012 O ORDER (AGREED) APPOINTING COMMISSIONER IN COMMONWEALTH OF VA/GRANTED/ALVA 12/3/12 (SEE ORDER)
14 11/30/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS TO DEFT BY PLTF
13 11/30/2012 M MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA BY PLTF
12 11/28/2012 R RESPONSE TO 1ST REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
11 11/26/2012 M MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY RESPONSES BY PLTF JANE DOE #25
10 11/05/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS PROPOUNDED TO DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC BY PLTF
9 11/01/2012 M MOTION TO DISMISS PLTFS CMPL BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION
8 10/19/2012 DEML DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS OF JEFFREY M HERMAN OBO PLTF JANE DOE #25
7 10/16/2012 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE & DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS BY GRAYROBINSON PA & DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ OBO DEFT
6 10/11/2012 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV 1ST SET OF INTERROG TO DEFT BY PLTF
5 10/11/2012 RQPD 1ST REQUEST TO PRODUCE TO DEFT BY PLTF
4 10/01/2012 SUMI SUMMONS ISSUED - 1
3 09/28/2012 CCST CIVIL COVER SHEET
2 09/28/2012 CMPL COMPLAINT FILED
1 09/28/2012 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 12-16-S

Ummmmm, perhaps the delay is because if the last tribe can be reached, then the big trumpet will sound and all us good Saints will be off to collect our heavenly rewards and there won't be no sorrow no more

Trouble is, by stuffing around cleaning up the mess that went on, instead of actually reaching them tribes, the timetable for the big trumpet sounding has been significantly delayed.

O.k., so this probably sounds pretty dodgey theology to the good saints who read this site, but compared to the rubbish I heard as a kid and subsequently as an adult, it is as good a reason as any. The point being, this should have been sorted out long ago, or the reason for the court case should never have occurred in the first place!

If God is going to let in naughty Saints, I think an honest Agnostic will sail through with ease and be joining Thomas, the all time great doubter and Peter the denier.

No need for confusion, God examines hearts and what some lack in faith they make up for in compassion, kindness and dedication to helping others and they will be getting rewards not millstones. And Jesus spoke very favourably about those who care for others and was no fan of Pharisees e.t.c.

That is how I see it anyway.

That's a great parable, Bemused!

You have expressed the situation very well!