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Anybody know who exactly is paying Pat Hendrix fees?

This really is beautiful.....and oh so true!

Bemused, I can't find a specific statement to copy here about who is paying Pat Hendrix's fees, but I am quite certain she is being paid by NTM, and has been paid by NTM since at least March or April of this year.

I don't know if the other members of the IHART teams are being paid. It is possible that they are voluntarily offering their time, with NTM paying their travel expenses and such. That is just a guess.

Thanks for doing the research, Raz.
How can any investigation run by NTM be independent?
The GRACE investigation was, due to the ethics of the GRACE people.
We can just pray that Pat and Company are ethical too. (Forgetting that the first bit of info was stored on the NTM server.)
People (as in churches and NTM employees and trainees) are too trusting of NTM. They sound so nice. And so sincere. Anyone who has had to "tangle" with them knows the truth.)
One solution seemed to be that MKs and others who have been abused hire their own investigation. Problems: Money and the cooperation of NTM.
Maybe someone could refresh the Investigation thread regarding the problem of NTM making use of the stories of abuse that are gathered by Pat---possibly in court. Not out of the question.
On the other hand, it would be great to see the names of Tambo abusers in print and circulated. (And PNG/ the Philippines/ Venezuela/ Brazil/ ETC.) Of course, these high powered detective investigators (Hales Corners, WI?) will ferret them ALL out....and.......they will be prosecuted? Or recommendations will be made to NTM that they can choose to ignore? And it will take 6 years to complete?
Anything is better than nothing?
If someone goes to court against NTM BEFORE the investigation is done, there will be no investigation (ie: the Philippines.) ???
So wait until it comes out and then, enraged by all you read, call the lawyer.
Too many choices.
Over to you, Gene....OT.....Befuddled....Anyone........
Be wise Tambo MK and anyone else who holds keys.
We WANT the doors unlocked, but........

Just start reading at November 29th on the Future Investigations Thread.
A must read for any intending to get in touch with Pat.
Consider all the options and complications.
It's a huge pile of spaghetti...........

For me, the priority is to see healing brought to those who were abused as children in NTM. I have to keep that in mind, as I read these posts. In light of that, what will help them most? I'm not denying all the complications and doubts of being a part of an investigation that may or may not be done with integrity! But maybe being a part of this investigation, telling their stores, being heard and believed will help the abused heal, and it might just be one step towards that. Maybe it won't be the final step, if it turns out this investigation is not done with integrity, but being a part of this investigation might be something that will give the abused/survivors strength and boldness to face the next step, if another step is necessary.

The healing is very important. However, do not overlook JUSTICE! Search the Scriptures and see how God dealt with the nations - and with Israel - because of the injustices. Seeing justice served on the perpetrators will go a long way to bringing about healing.

Thanks for that. I agree - justice is a big part of it. I hope to see justice done too.

I've been having an interesting discussion with a new found "Fanda Friend", about Spiritual Abuse. My father uses a technique where he says " I don't want you to be upset but . . . " then what follows is a tirade of personal abuse/attack, which of couse has no right of reply.
Personally I've always considered this to be a psycological tactic used by a bully, however my learned friend is of the opinion that it is Spiritual Abuse and being no expert on matters spiritual (due to shoving it in the "to hard basket" for decades), they could be right. Since it comes from someone who considers themselves to be on the hot line to the Almighty and thereby a Spiritual person, I may have to admit that I am ummmmmmmmmm are wrong
If I had to define Spiritual Abuse, I supose I'd say it was the use of religon to make someone else do or think something against their natural instinct. But I'm open to more wise insight.

In fact I'm so open minded, my brains fall out .

Whatever else "healing" may mean, and it probably means different things to different people at different times under different circumstances..... JUSTICE is undoubtedly a part of it. God is a God of Justice; we are created in His image; it is no surprise that we respond positively to justice, negatively to injustice.