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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:16 pm 
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I'm not sure if it would be morally right for me to receive any money from NTM, because the money is tainted. People have donated money in good faith that it is going to be used to help the spiritual and physical needs of folk around the world who are less fortunate than themselves, but how much of it really got there?

If an abuser fell on their knees and asked if they could repay their debt, then I would consider taking compensation or if someone specifically offered to pay an abusers debt.

Alas what has happened in the past can never be undone, money might ease the future, but it won't punish those who really need to be punished, because it will come from the extortion of more innocent people. Two wrongs won't make anything right.

My fear is that the moment compensation is handed out, there will alas be greedy MKs and hangers on who suddenly discover they were abused and the genuinely horrifically abused will be hurt in the stampede, because their voice will be drowned out again.

And that is how I see this issue.


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We'd like to see all the abused have a better future.
But it's Really complicated!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:24 pm 
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Isn't that what Pontius Pilate said, so he just washed his hands.

It's simple really, innocent kids were abused and it wasn't their fault!
NTM knew and tried to hide it, that wasn't the fault of the victims either.
Now NTM is being sued, that is NTM's problem as a result of their corruption and incompetence.

The facts are simple, it is only complicated because NTM choose to do the wrong thing and still does.

But victims can make it more complicated for themselves by not firstly trying to help themselves. Waiting for NTM to hand out help is never going to happen, they really don't care! There is lots of help out there, but it requires a bit of effort to find it and use it. To many people in this life are willing to let others do the work and try and cash in on their efforts when the dividends pay off.

So no more throwing hands up in the air and saying it's complicated! It is a CHALLENGE and challenges are there to be worked at resolving. TOGETHER!


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Good for her!

Yes, there are often consequences for speaking up and speaking out for the abused and the oppressed.

The voiceless victims are worth it though.

That's why I'm not done yet!


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Well, I agree with all you all said, but I must say that I truly believe that this has no future at all, and the ONLY PLACE THAT REALLY HURTS NTM is their pocket! But then, it was an idea, like Bemused said, somthing worth chewing on. I still am for the challenge!


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Hey Blond, thanks for chewing this over. I think you are right when you say that the only wake up call NTM understands is being hit in the pocket. Sometimes I feel like God himself has given up on getting through to the thick arrogant male minds that make up NTM leadership! And why are there so many subservient women just nodding their pretty little heads and letting their men get away with this appalling behaviour.
Ladies of NTM, tell your menfolk to start making a stand for kids and what is right. And if they try and put you in your place, then pack up your kids and leave, it is not a safe place for you. Bombard the leaders with e-mails and phone calls demanding they sort out this mess properly, before the next pervert slips through their greasy fingers and your kid is the next victim.
And if you don't want to, or can't be bother, or lack the intestinal fortitude, then don't complain when victims start suing the pants off NTM and you find yourself liable by association.

Your choice.


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There is the notion that NTM should be good stewards of the money donated and the money earned by their investments. Missionaries use their vouchers (if that's how they're still paid) for medical expenses as well as living expenses. Sometimes for damages caused by the work they are in. Well, we were part of that work also. In addition, we had no choice in the matter so I say that NTM paying recompense for our damage is quite appropriate. That being said, no amount of money will remove the damage done.


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