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My dear Bemused,

I very readily and happily accept your heartfelt apology!
We had a very busy weekend and I had to disappear.
But the unhappy thought popped up here and there that maybe I had lost a friend I didn't want to lose!

I also apologize for not making myself clear. In trying to be so subtle----
Well, it just came out very funny---I don't even know myself how those words have anything to do
With what I wanted to say. Gulp!

I know how honest you have been and how much effort you have put into
Sorting this all out.
I applaud you and will never think anything but "wonderful" when I think about
Who you are.
I am privileged to be your friend.

I don't usually say much about political figures people might mention or their views on faith--
Because I don't think that is our main purpose here.
The criminal behavior of some NTM members and the cover up by "leaders"
And support of and justice for those who suffered because of this
IS what we are about here.
I think it's fine for people to mention whatever they want to or need to here.
I just don't think I have to make a comment every time I see something in a different way personally.
But if someone else wants to -----fine.
What makes this site so great is that we can express ourselves and not be condemned.

The only thing I wanted to say about truth is that I do believe in absolute truth.
I am standing up for truth here and the truth I am standing for doesn't change.
That is what I believe.
However, we have had truth twisted in our faces
We have a child who is suffering because the truth was twisted for him when he was too young
To know what was going on.
And I realize from your testimony that truth was horribly twisted for you by
Very important people in your life.
That's horrible!
I would not try to tell you how you are to handle that.
I just want to walk along with you and be a friend.

At least we don't just SAY we are transparent here.
We are DOING it too.
You can just look right thru us---
And you'll see it all hanging out!

The Herman, Mermelstein and Horowitz Law Firm is keeping the NTM attorneys busy, in the third lawsuit:

$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!


http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocke ... 12CA004962

Detailed Information for Case 2012CA004962

Case Number: 2012CA004962 Judge: MARLENE M ALVA
Date Filed: 09/28/2012 Case Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE
Plantiffs: Defendants:
JANE DOE NO 25
NEW TRIBES MISSION INC

12/04/2012 O ORDER (AGREED) APPOINTING COMMISSIONER IN COMMONWEALTH OF VA/GRANTED/ALVA 12/3/12 (SEE ORDER)
11/30/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS TO DEFT BY PLTF
11/30/2012 M MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA BY PLTF
11/28/2012 R RESPONSE TO 1ST REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
11/26/2012 M MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY RESPONSES BY PLTF JANE DOE #25
11/05/2012 RQAD REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS PROPOUNDED TO DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC BY PLTF
11/01/2012 M MOTION TO DISMISS PLTFS CMPL BY DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION
10/19/2012 DEML DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS OF JEFFREY M HERMAN OBO PLTF JANE DOE #25
10/16/2012 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE & DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS BY GRAYROBINSON PA & DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ OBO DEFT
10/11/2012 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV 1ST SET OF INTERROG TO DEFT BY PLTF
10/11/2012 RQPD 1ST REQUEST TO PRODUCE TO DEFT BY PLTF
10/01/2012 SUMI SUMMONS ISSUED - 1
09/28/2012 CCST CIVIL COVER SHEET
09/28/2012 CMPL COMPLAINT FILED
09/28/2012 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 12-16-S

Anyone able to interpret the legalise for a legal novice?

I'm used to Guilty or Not Guilty.

I don't understand the legalese either, Bemused.

I was just thinking that all those motions, responses and requests represent a lot of billable hours. (Wikipedia says $150-$1000 per hour for attorney's fees. I have no idea what NTM is paying.)

Note that on Nov. 1, NTM made a motion that this lawsuit be dismissed, as they have in the other cases.

Yes, yes, I have already heard the explanation that this is just standard procedure for how lawsuits play themselves out in the court system.

But I still say, as I said to Larry Brown a year an a half ago: a motion to dismiss a lawsuit brought against you by an MK FEELS like a denial by you that the abuse was significant, or perhaps that it even happened. It certainly does not speak empathy and compassion, or support and love.

If the lawsuits came as a suprise to NTM they would be living off this planet. Honestly, think how this looks to the general public. A big powerful organisation, admits it screwed up really bad and still can't get it right because it keeps messing the lives up of the victims it created in the first place.

Only the deluded would have sympathy for this sort of action, it is just delaying the inevitable and pushing the flood gates even wider.

Oh what a wicked web we weave, when we set out to deceive. Shakespeare (forgive the translation).

Anyone still in doubt that the MK experience doesn't have far reaching reprecussions?

A family who worked in PNG (not NTM) came back to NZ and continued a slide into a dysfunctional state. Early one morning the oldest child went to deliver his papers. Something went drastically wrong and both his parents and three siblings were found shot dead. David Bain (the oldest of four siblings, who was delivering the papers) was arrested and subsequently jailed for 13 years for the murder. The conviction was overturned several years ago and now the debate rages over compensation.
Books have been written on the case and debate still goes on as to who murdered the family (it can only have been David or his father). In the court case accounts of sexual abuse came to light and the dysfunctional nature of the family under a veneer of exentricity.

So what is different between this family and what is now emerging about families post NTM, actually not a lot. The same ingredients are there.

Here is the latest article about the case (which I realise I have mentioned before, but it is worth considering again)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/8075386/Compensation-for-Bain-would-be-a-travesty

May we all pray this never happens to any of our families and those that have some influence in preventing such a reoccurence get a move on and do something before it does.

As a delay in the NTM v Jane Doe 25 case, the judge has taken herself off of the case. She is stating a confliction of interests; apparently she must remove herself from all cases involving the NTM attorneys.