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I make different choices.

I choose to remain skeptical of NTM until proven otherwise, because of their track record. Actually, I have no personal stake in the outcome either way other than as a fellow human. In that, I side with those who have been waiting so long for justice and vindication. When they are satisfied, I and the rest of compassionate watching humanity will be satisfied.

I (choose?) logically believe that my husband's parents and anyone else who left their children behind to share the gospel fully missed the point of the gospel- Jesus' great command to love one another as he loved us, and to care for the least of these as if they were Jesus himself. Obviously anyone abandoning Jesus so they can go tell other people about him have missed the point. I don't believe they were evil, but very misguided. I do think they wasted their lives, though God brings good out of evil all the time, it is no endorsement of evil. Abandoning children for any reason other than the welfare of those same children is evil in my opinion.

I am not sure what that means about doctrinal fights. It looks to me like all the people who disagreed with fundamentalism have left or gone silent, so there's nothing to discuss there.

I care very deeply for my MK and every other MK who wants my sympathy and support.

Yes, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God,which is why the Savior came to reconcile not only us, but the whole world to God. That is the good news I share, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself and no longer holding men's trespasses against them.

There is no free pass in the Bible for child abandonment (or any other willful sin) for Christian workers. I profoundly disagree that God called anyone to every do that, not even once.

See Media Alert thread.
NTM is still trying to keep info inside NTM.
I choose to be skeptical.

I disagree as well with much of fundamentalism. But that fight is not my fight. I only have passion for so much, and any passion I had for doctrinal studies was squelched in Bible college. I appreciate your quest, Shadowspring, and love how your mind works. It's a gift that you have . . .. As far as skepticism, MB, yep, it's not something I'm comfortable with. Not having skepticism gets me in trouble. Last week I chose to believe that my employer would let me continue with my position, despite a new medical condition. Now I'm looking for work. But it was the right thing for me to do at that time. These talks are good . . .

I'm sorry to hear you have a medical condition, and that you lost your job. I hope things improve for you on both fronts soon.

May I ask why was it right for you believe you would keep your job? Why would it have been wrong for you consider that you might lose your job? What makes that a moral issue?

Reminds me of the country advice "Hope for the best but prepare for the worst". There's a lot of wisdom in those words.

Not really a moral issue, as far as ethics go . . .I did consider that I might lose my job, but saw no other way to go with it. I asked for reasonable accommodation, and they are not legally obligated to give it as I did not injure myself on the job. I wanted to believe that they would work with me, but corporate culture over rode. I chose to work per diem, lose my benefits, go on my husbands insurance instead of fighting a legal battle. The truth is that I like to work, and would rather work then wait for claims and lawyers. It was the right thing to do for me. I don't want my summer to be full of bitterness, to malign my friends from work. We choose our battles. There are many fights for justice, but God doesn't require that we become an activist in every one.

With my parents, I want to respect the work that they did on the field. I don't draw attention to it or away from it. They were misinformed and taken in by much. Some of it they regret. They are not heroes or worthy of being demonized. In return, I want them to respect my work. They have not always done that . . .but the more that we communicate the better that is getting. I am living in the now with them, while contemplating the role that they played in my personality development. It's hard work, thinking this much. I probably sound like a jerk, if I do, I'm sorry.

There's a scene in, I think, Bubble Boy where the guy bumps in to a bus full of, ahem, "Christians". They are a bunch of clueless idiots who "choose" to ignore reality and fake happy all the time. I think that's what a lot of us feel like we grew up in. A lot of us refuse to live there any longer. For a lot of us, when we hear about choosing to trust, or "just believe", we see that bus load of oblivious idiots. However, I think most of us are also painfully (and experientially) aware that getting out of that is a huge personal battle. It means sucking back your pride and saying, You know what, I just don't give a **** what you think anymore. Most of us know that not everyone is ready for that. And even those who are ready are on a journey along a continuum, not at either point a or b. And all of us have sounded like a jerk from time to time.

I knew a guy once who chose to shove his fingers in his ears, close his eyes, and sing LALALA! at the top of his lungs. I choose to kick that guy off the top of the CN tower.

I give you all applause for the work you are doing in your personal lives.
Also for being respectful to your parents while, at the same time, trying to figure out what happened.
CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!
We are thankful for the forgiveness our children have freely given to us.
Boy, would we do things differently!
But no one can go back.

Can anyone tell me why new posts on the Fanda threads do not appear when you click "View active topics???"
You can find a new post there if you know what to watch, but lots of folks must miss them.
I asked Bonnie, but I don't know if I was able to explain it very well.

Sitting Duck, you're scaring me!! I prefer to thing of myself on top of the tower not saying la, la, la . . .but sitting on the edge swinging my feet, sometimes crying for people I know, sometimes inviting others to join me . . .and every once in a while getting up to push a true enemy off.

Ok, sometimes I cry for myself, too. Like now.