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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:19 pm 
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A new entry regarding the second lawsuit.

Is someone feeling unprotected?? Hmmm.....

http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocke ... 11CA002688

06/15/2012 M MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER BY PLTF
06/01/2012 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 8/27/12 @ 9:30 AM
05/08/2012 M MOTION TO DISMISS COUNTS 1, VI AND VII OF PLTF'S 1ST AMENDED COMPLAINT BY DEFT "NEW TRIBES"
05/08/2012 AAFD ANS AND AFFIRM DEFENSES TO PLTF'S 1ST AMENDED COMPLAINT BY DEFT, NEW TRIBES MISSION, INC
04/18/2012 RQPD 1ST REQUEST TO PRODUCE TO PLTF BY DEFT
04/18/2012 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV OF 1ST SET OF INTEROGS TO PLTF BY DEFT
04/12/2012 AM 1ST AMENDED COMPLAINT BY PLTF JANE DOE (ADDED COUNT)
03/23/2012 R RESPONSE TO DEFTS MOTION TO DISMISS BY PLTF JANE DOE
03/23/2012 OD20 ORDER OF DISMISSAL/20 DAYS TO AMEND/RUDISILL 3/23/12
12/01/2011 NFIL NOTICE OF FILING OF GRACE REPORT BY PLTF
10/14/2011 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING 12/01/11 AT 10:30 AM
08/18/2011 M DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION, INC'S MOTION TO DISMISS PLTF'S COMPLAINT
08/02/2011 SUSD SUMMONS RETURNED SERVED/NEW TRIBES MISSION INC 7/28/11
08/01/2011 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE/DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ OBO DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
07/25/2011 SUMI SUMMONS ISSUED NEW TRIBES MISSION INC/OC-PS
07/22/2011 CCST CIVIL COVER SHEET
07/22/2011 CMPL COMPLAINT FILED


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Ummmmmm, hate to show my ignorance, but my legalise is not that good. I presume that one side of the legal action is worried by the behaviour or potential behaviour of the other side and asked for some sort of protection measure. Anyone with a considerable better understanding of these proceedings able to decipher this for me :?: .


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:05 pm 
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lawsuits are a matter of public record
sometimes parties to lawsuits wish that some aspects are kept private (trade secrets, for instance)
they ask the judge for an order that keeps certain material from entering the court record, or if entered in the clerk's file it is kept under seal, or keeps an opposing party, who has access to it through discovery, from disclosing that material or information to third parties

having said that, I have no clue what has actually been filed, so the above may not apply


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Thanks for that, Demostenes. We know practically nothing about this second lawsuit.

And we still don't. :)


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Many thanks for your expertise, much appreciated. :)


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Lest we forget that there is still an ongoing lawsuit against NTM.

I have bold-faced the newer entries since this case was last posted here.

It looks like Jane Doe will be giving a deposition a month from today. Over a year since the lawsuit was first filed.

http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocke ... 11CA001682

Detailed Information for Case 2011CA002688

Case Number: 2011CA002688 Judge: MICHAEL J. RUDISILL
Date Filed: 07/22/2011 Case Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE
Plantiffs: Defendants:
DOE JANE
NEW TRIBES MISSION INC

08/31/2012 NSAI NOTICE OF SERV/ANSW TO INTERRO BY PLTF
08/31/2012 R RESPONSE TO DEFT'S REQUEST TO PRODUCE BY PLTF
08/31/2012 NDEP NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF JANE DOE ON 10/29/12 @ 10 AM
08/30/2012 DEML DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS BY BRETT M BRESSLER ESQ
08/24/2012 DEML DESIGNATION OF ELECTRONIC EMAIL ADDRESS BY DAVID O DOYLE JR
08/03/2012 O AGREED ORDER ON PLTF'S MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER/RUDISILL 8/2/12 (SEE ORDER)
07/09/2012 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 7/24/12 @ 9 AM
06/15/2012 M MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER BY PLTF
06/01/2012 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 8/27/12 @ 9:30 AM
05/08/2012 M MOTION TO DISMISS COUNTS 1, VI AND VII OF PLTF'S 1ST AMENDED COMPLAINT BY DEFT "NEW TRIBES"
05/08/2012 AAFD ANS AND AFFIRM DEFENSES TO PLTF'S 1ST AMENDED COMPLAINT BY DEFT, NEW TRIBES MISSION, INC
04/18/2012 RQPD 1ST REQUEST TO PRODUCE TO PLTF BY DEFT
04/18/2012 NSIN NOTICE OF SERV OF 1ST SET OF INTEROGS TO PLTF BY DEFT
04/12/2012 AM 1ST AMENDED COMPLAINT BY PLTF JANE DOE (ADDED COUNT)
03/23/2012 R RESPONSE TO DEFTS MOTION TO DISMISS BY PLTF JANE DOE
03/23/2012 OD20 ORDER OF DISMISSAL/20 DAYS TO AMEND/RUDISILL 3/23/12
12/01/2011 NFIL NOTICE OF FILING OF GRACE REPORT BY PLTF
10/14/2011 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING 12/01/11 AT 10:30 AM
08/18/2011 M DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION, INC'S MOTION TO DISMISS PLTF'S COMPLAINT
08/02/2011 SUSD SUMMONS RETURNED SERVED/NEW TRIBES MISSION INC 7/28/11
08/01/2011 NOAP NOTICE OF APPEARANCE/DAVID O DOYLE JR ESQ OBO DEFT NEW TRIBES MISSION INC
07/25/2011 SUMI SUMMONS ISSUED NEW TRIBES MISSION INC/OC-PS
07/22/2011 CCST CIVIL COVER SHEET
07/22/2011 CMPL COMPLAINT FILED


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A third lawsuit has now been filed.

http://www.hermanlaw.com/blog/2012/09/2 ... ion-114478


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http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocke ... 12CA004962

Detailed Information for Case 2012CA004962

Case Number: 2012CA004962 Judge: MARLENE M ALVA
Date Filed: 09/28/2012 Case Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE
Plantiffs: Defendants:
JANE DOE NO 25
NEW TRIBES MISSION INC

09/28/2012 CCST CIVIL COVER SHEET
09/28/2012 CMPL COMPLAINT FILED
09/28/2012 ADRE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER REASSIGNMENT OF JUDGE 12-16-S


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Perhaps we could illustrate this with a little example:

I have a dog, a lakeland terrier, who is a great companion. However the terrier component of his name gives a clue to his nature. Now as you may well be aware, the city where I live has had a series of earthquakes that have devastated the city and greatly disturbed those that survived. But have a look at this:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7754198/Dog-aggression-rises-after-shakes

Apparently according to this, I can blame my dogs misbehaving on the quakes and the aftershocks. While I might get a little sympathy for my plight if my dog bites a child and I end up before the dog ranger, it ain't going to be much. Because I am responsible for my dog. I feed him, exercise him, socialise him and keep him under control in public. I can hire all the pscholigical experts in the world to explain that my dog has been deeply traumatised by siesmic activity, but it doesn't change the fact that I am responsible for the behaviour of my hound.

Which is the position NTM finds itself in, some of the missionaries working for them have "bitten" children and there is no excuse. Now some of those "bitten children" are taking lawsuits and that is fair enough.
When my dog does you know what in public, I have a bag handy to scoop up the offending matter immediately, before someone steps in it. This should have been NTMs policy too, don't just leave the mess for someone else to clean up.

There are some basic rules to owning a dog:

Don't have a breed that is dangerous out in public.
Muzzle a dangerous breed of dog when it is out in public.
Never leave a dangerous dog unattended around children, especially if the child has food.
If the child says "the dog bit me", investigate the claim, support the child, don't just say "the dog must be innocent, because it is wagging its tale".
If you own the dog, you are responsible for its behaviour.
Even cute dogs can bite, if not trained properly.


And the rules are similar for missions.


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