Deja do wrote:
I am very disturbed by what I read this morning! It was a piece written by a career NTM missionary about the suicide of their daughter in law and son. They say they shared with them that God loved them but the deceased didn't accept that God loved them so much that He would take care of the terrible traumas they had had in their life!
But it doesn't say they told the deceased that they loved them or cared for them or they listened to them or got help for them!
I don't know what the trauma was, but being with NTM it may well have been horrific abuse!
And then all the comments are gut wrenching, because they seem to be thinking the same way!
Or maybe I've just got it all wrong?
But I don't think so!
(I don't want to put the article up on here, but it is easy to find or send a PM.)
Thanks for sending that through, it is indeed a disturbing insight into a way of thinking that Raz rightly suggests is of a fanatical/fundamentalist bent. It's the lack of compassion that gets me, but this is the way my parents think. As my father said in our last conversation some years ago when I told him about the arrest of our neighbour for sexual abuse "it is no concern of mine". If a victim committed suicide, he probably answered the same way, but clothed it in expressions of them "not walking with the Lord".
Raz wrote:
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To apply this to the NTM parents you are referring to: New Tribers are so sure that they know exactly how God thinks and acts, that if they decide their own child has "rejected" Christ, then Christ has also rejected their child, and that child will spend eternity in fiery punishment.
I now feel it is very arrogant for us puny humans to assume that we can be the ones to put people in one category or another. The ins, and the outs. The ones who matter, and the ones who don't.
I don't think there is any point in trying to reason with this type of thinking, it as you so rightly say "very arrogant", but when someone believes that they are of the few who are right and are terrified to contemplate that there are other paths to happiness, salvation, eutopia or whatever, this becomes the consequence.