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 Post subject: Re: Investigation
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:31 pm 
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Thank you Bemused and Raz for spelling it out....for those who haven't re-orientated themselves with
life in the real world where NTM is not the judge and jury in matters of sexual crime.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigation
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:08 am 
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VERY clear expectations.
And not the first time this has been expressed.
So let's keep going forward!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:56 am 
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I know these expectations, you know these expectations, but do the "untold millions" know these expectations? It's not exactly mind blowing science, just common sense. However common sense is not always something that permeates through large religous organisations. So lets use a technique so familiar to us, repitition of a simple message, until all come to believe in it, even those with closed hearts and minds.

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So lets put it in real basic language:

a) Sexual connection between an adult and a minor is a criminal offence. The criminal is the adult, not the child (refered to as a minor). If you raped, sexually molested, exposed yourself, induced an act upon yourself by a minor, you have committed an offence under the law and you should have been prosecuted.

b) If you have not been prosectued (unless you are deceased), we aim to have this done to you. And the organisation that covered up you crime brought to account for their action or inaction in the matter. We are not bitter, we just want justice for the lives that you have messed up, yes you are being held accountable.

c) You may have been forgiven by yourself, your friends or your family, but if you haven't done the "time for the crime", the law has not forgiven you.


Anybody need any clarification on the above?


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 Post subject: Re: Investigation
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:16 pm 
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I am looking for information on the Panama abuse. I knew people who were there. I never lived there because I got married before they left but my brothers and sister were there. This is important to me for several reasons. Who was the abuser(s)?


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 Post subject: Re: Investigation
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:27 pm 
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@sweetlady1155

Please feel free to contact Anne Kulinsky at her email address: anne@professionalinvestigatorsintl.com. She is the coordinator of the Panama investigation and can set up an interview with you. They are interested in speaking with family members as well.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Thank you so much :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:54 am 
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The Panama team is very good to talk too


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 Post subject: Re: Investigation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:06 pm 
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Quick inquiry. Are the investigators of any particular religous affiliation?

If I was to turn up to be interviewed and the investigator/s were to say "now Bemused, before we start, let us just bow our heads and . . ." Bemused would be thinking "get me out of here, I can't take this . . ."


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:10 pm 
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The question on faith or any church affiliation never came up.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:06 am 
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Religous matters never came up with me either. I have gone through 2 interviews, two different groups for 2 different fields and none of that came up. They want your story not your beliefs :)


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