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Depends on your definitions of "love" and "brother and sister". Just because you are related to someone, you don't have to "love" them. And just because you can claim to be "brothers and sisters in Christ" doesn't mean you have to love someone either. Just because someone dresses up like a sheep, doesn't make them a member of your flock that you must love, there are some really nice wolf disguise outfits that can be picked up cheap these days!

Anyway, saying you "love" someone has become rather cheap and meaningless these days anyway. Just have to click a "like" button and type "we love you so much" and hey presto, civic duty done with a good dose of cheap insincerity.

Take my advice from someone who has been round a bit. Spend time getting to know what makes people that you come into contact with really tick. Look outside your comfort zone and at the people you interact with. Sometimes the greatest people we will ever come across are way out of our traditional comfort zones, but they share common passions and we can learn from their different way of looking at things as they challenge us to open our eyes to who we can really be.
Much better to really "love" a few close friends who have your back, than to "love" a whole lot of superficial good time buddies, who will desert you in droves when the going gets tough.

Right-O!

So you reached out to NTM with love and what happened? Were you welcomed into the bossom of the brotherhood, broke bread and solved any of your concerns? Was it a photo opportunity and everyone smiled?

Let's face it, Sanford is on another page! A page where they effectively have supported kiddifiddlers and kiddifidlers are criminals. Sure there are no doubt some good men in NTM's leadership, but collectively they have gone down the wrong road and it is a road that has cost many dearly, just because they didn't want to risk reputation or accumulated wealth.
So why should you lower yourself to this level by "loving" them. Better to go in with a carrot on your plate and a big stick to back it up, because I think you will need the stick. After all didn't Jesus enter his Father's house and then end up driving a lot of self serving people out of it with a whip?

You ask what makes me tick. Probably the same thing that makes you tick. I'm tired of seeing bad people pretend they are good while they try and hide evil. I am the conscience that NTM has lost and the voice that many will never find. I am someone who will ask hard questions because the time for simple answers has long gone. This is my contribution to a world free of children being abused, because once upon a time this was the world I too was abused in.

Who I am - doesn't matter, it is what I stand for that does.
Where I am from - doesn't matter, it is where I am going that does.
Where I've been - is relevant because if defines where I am going.
Where I'm going - that is what makes me tick.

Great post, Deja do ... great summary of the things that matter to us here!

It hurts to go over them again.
But so necessary!
Sometimes you think NO ONE is listening.

Depends which version of the Bible one is asking about. I think the NTM version is wrong and I don't believe it is true at all. To be honest I struggle with some of the stories in the Old Testament but most of it reads fine to me.

I think you have been treated abysmally by NTM, to be told that someone is in but won't see you is very rude. I hope you shook your feet as you left. But you tried and that gives you more credibility than the many who stick their heads in the sand.

Next hard question. If I said that I was an MK who no longer believed in the Bible, would I be thought any less of? Would that be like Donald Trump wanting all Muslims being barred from entering the States, being judged as a group instead of as an individual?