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Well..........when fury takes over sometimes the grammatical errors "kick in." :lol:


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Hi, everyone. I am the one who writes the blog that Lara quotes from below, the response to the article by Nussbaum and Sidebotham. I just wanted to give the link to my blog - SIM Missionary Kid Survivors. It will be easier to read that post on the blog, and there is a lot of other information there you might be interested in. I'd love to have some of you join in the conversation there as well. It is at http://childrenofsim.wordpress.com.


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Thank you, elizibatu. I have been reading your blog. It is excellent. It is very heartening to know we are not alone. Yes, there is a greater groundswell than I have ever seen of good people working hard to call attention to the high price many MKs have paid for the sake of their parents' ministry.

Nussbaum and Sidebotham seem to imply that this noble effort to speak up and help others find their voice is somehow connected to lawyers who have drained the coffers of the Roman Catholic Church and now seek to manipulate MK survivors in order to keep their business going.

This is so deeply insulting. I am so grieved over this.

Attorneys are attacking other attorneys, with no regard for the children who are right here in the room. It feels like there are two adults shouting at each other, saying hurtful things about the kids, and not even noticing or caring that the little ones are cowering in the corner, taking in every word of this heated arguing.

This feels like more abuse, to me. Stop it! Stop it!

Well, I'm getting sidetracked.

What I meant to say is just a simple thank you, elizibatu, for your clear and insightful observations about the offensive article, and for your classy blog. It is attractive and welcoming.

Please keep up the good work, and many blessings to you!


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Seems like a very appropriate place for a song by MUSE called The Resistance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1-H9OcYYgk

Or video/sound bite by John Conner of Terminator Salvation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR8kMrtzp9c&feature=related


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"For a missionary child to face a boarding school separation is no more abusive than for military children to have their fathers sent to Iraq for a year." page 17

I am not an MK, but I am an "Army Brat." My father was a career enlisted man in the US Army. He fought in WWII before I was born. He met my mother in Paris, where they had their first child. I was born in NY and six years later my sister was born in OK. We moved a lot, often changing schools in the middle of a term. This was just considered "normal" and, since we always lived in "army towns," it was normal for all the kids around us, except for the civilians, who were usually in a minority.

My father died when I was 12, having been separated from his family for about 6 of those years. However, unlike MKs, I was never sent to a boarding school. I always lived with my mother and siblings. This, to my mind, is an entirely different level of separation than that faced by MKs in a boarding school.

Was the separation I endured while my father was overseas, often in war zones (Korea twice and Viet Nam once), abusive? I would say, on balance, that it was not conducive to good behavior! :lol: And, the authors of this report do not say that I did not experience abuse; only that MK separation is "no more abusive" than what I experienced. If that were true, and I have no idea how they determined that, it still would not mean that MKs were not abused by the separation from their parents. And, remember, they were separated from both parents. Most military kids, even today, are only separated from one.

I enjoyed a great deal of Army Brat life, and I liked military things. However, they ended the draft just as I became eligible, and I determined not to join just because I wanted to eventually get married, have kids and be there for and with my kids. I decided to be a missionary, instead. OK, not too bright, but we ended up home schooling, so it worked out fine for us.

While I was separated from my father for half of the years that our lives overlapped, it was never for more than one year at a time. MKs, whose experiences the authors equate with mine, were often separated during their entire school years from first grade through high school graduation. I'm no lawyer, but I can see a difference in degree there.

Finally, my father's commanding officer never, ever came to our house and told my father how to run it, told my mother she was lazy and not pulling her weight, told them how to discipline me...

This whole article is such a piece of special pleading, Raz, that you should not let it bother you. It is beneath contempt and unworthy of your time.


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That song gave me chills on this sweltering July day.

And John Conner made me cry.

Thanks, ViaMUSE ... I like your style.


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Raz..........it is what you say to your children now that they will remember! If I start talking and responding to this article and all that is wrong with it in respect to MK's, I will not be able to see for the tears that will be flowing. Be encouraged..........your children see you NOW, in this moment.....................who you are and your love for them!


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Thank you, sweet Lara.
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