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As soon as this thread gets renewed, it's viewing numbers tick over very quickly, while other threats only tick over at about 10% of the speed. It does slow down when the good folk in the Americas go to bed, which would suggest most of the readers are from that part of the globe and have an appreciation for poetry

I wouldn't worry to much about few posting, quality not quantity eh?

And for the observant, the "R" is now fixed. Sent the computer for some theRapy.

"Round the Religious Rocks the Righteous TRiber Rapidly Ran and Ran and Ran . . . . ."

Bill Cosby didn't get away with it.
Why should Tribers?
Gymnasts are working hard on the organizations that covered up their abuse.
Of course, they have more money.
Praying for a miracle!
The spotlight shone, eventually, on the Catholic church in Boston.
It CAN happen!

Yes, please!

Will we see this in our lifetimes, MB?

I am not at all confident about this.

Oh ye of little faith, hath not heard that the War in Korea is over after 68 years. And who would have predicted that?

And if peace can break out after so long, so justice can too, me thinks

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/103455254/after-68-years-the-korean-war-is-coming-to-an-end

May I say, just to be controversial:

Just because we don't see things happening the way we want to see them happening to NTM/Ethnos360 doesn't mean they aren't happening. There is a vast and just as real (if you believe it, as NTM/Ethnos360 certainly does) spiritual world that is the realm in which God/the Holy Spirit mostly work nowadays. I don't believe for one second God has given NTM/Ethnos360 a pass on the evils they have accomodated by turning a blind eye to what they knew to be true. Oh, it's happening guys. I have to admit that it would be much more gratifying to see them pay for what they have done(or allowed to be done) now, but I get that Gods ways are higher than my ways. I know that God has made it known in no uncertain terms that his precious little ones will be avenged. NTM/Ethnos360 is fooling no one, except those who are already drinking the koolaid or choose to turn a blind eye.

What about that Biblical concept of who God loves he disciplines?

So either they're about to be grounded for a VERY long time, or they're headed for a much worse place.

Can I get an AMEN?!!!

No problem with being controversial, ha ha, I keep labeling NTM a cult and me suspects that don't get the unanamous nod of agreement.

Presume you've heard of the Scott Kennell case. Justice was swift and severe (58 years in jail), administered not by NTM but by the proper channels. NTMs care for the victims of Scott Kennell appears to be non existant and if the case hadn't broken in the media, I suspect NTM would have moved heaven and earth to keep a lid on any public discussion of the case.

NTM is a cult, it is capable of spinning whatever eventuates to suit it's purpose. i.e. bad news happening to a devotee, is interpreted as "strengthening the faith", whereas bad news happening to a non devotee is interpreted as "punishment" and that mindset is not worth the effort arguing with. My own mother in our only conversation in years said that rapists and child molesters should be punished with the full force of the law, but when I asked her what should happen to her NTM colleagues, she stated they should be forgiven because they were doing "God's work" and had been tempted by the devil himself.
Total rubbish in my book and dangerous rubbish at that.

Can't give you an informative opinion on what God thinks of all this mess, as I'm an Agnostic. If He does exist, I'd hazard a guess that He is pretty fed up and disgusted.

Now, would you settle for an Agnostic Amen?

I'd like to give you an amen, 2ndGenNTMmk, but this is a tough one for me.

Does it feel like God has given NTM a pass on the evils committed against innocent, defenseless children? I will be honest and say that from my perspective, now 65 years after my parents first took me to the Fouts Springs Boot Camp, it does feel like the child abusers in NTM -- and the mission itself -- have been given a shrug and a pass by the Almighty. I know who a lot of these vile offenders are/were. I have seen their names. I have heard the stories. And many (probably most) of the worst offenders have already died, taking their wicked secrets with them. Some of the others are living at the NTM/Ethnos360 Retirement Center in Sanford. They pray their pious prayers and sing their sanctimonious songs, and one of these days, they too will die, and at their funerals, great praise will be heaped on them, and not a word will be breathed about the children they beat or berated, or about the child molesters they covered for.

And Ethnos360 just keeps chugging forward ... expanding, morphing, raking in the money from the naive, blindly loyal supporters, who either ask no questions, or have accepted the glib, scripted answers to the questions they dared to ask.

I know this sounds pretty cynical ... but I have grown weary of waiting for justice - from man or God.

You are not being controversial ... we welcome your thoughts. Not trying to shut you down, and hoping this doesn't come across that way.

2ndGenNTMmk wrote



Heres the origin of the problem, Raz. Going as a guest to anothers country and telling the folk that they've been wrong in the way they think about their diety or that their diety is wrong, requires a large degree of tact and humility if it is to be done right.
Bowling into a different culture and pretending you've been invited (remember that old line) and then dividing the "Brown Gold" up into good ones who listen and naughty ones who don't is offensive and arrogant.
Of course Tribers were taught that they were superior, we all know that. Superior to the "Brown Gold", superior to any other mission and if you're male, superior to any female.

And Superior folk don't like having the same rules governing them that ordinary folk do. They demand to be forgiven not flogged and if they make a big mess of others lives, so be it. It's someone elses problem and they should stop complaining about it and just be grateful that they got to glimpse and touch the hem of the folk who are Superior.

However even this ageing Agnostic, seems to remember that the Good Book says "We are all equal in the sight of God". Not, "some is more equal than others".