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No, Yunker, you are not the bad one. I did not mean to be disrespectful of you and did not intend to refer to anyone in particular. I understand your point about it not being "walking away" if you never claimed a faith for yourself. I was being very general ... referring to people born into Christian families, or who have been part of Christian churches or missions in the past.

I'm sorry for being insensitive.

I'm not offended by your language, Yunker.

And all the things you and your family lived through in PNG were abusive. You are absolutely right.

We are trying to raise awareness within NTM of the often subtle and and sometimes flagrant abuses that occurred in their midst, and apparently continue to occur. But sadly I don't think we're having much of an impact.

We do hear you. You have the right to explain your beliefs and talk about things you witnessed and experienced.

I am listening.

Being a Sympathetic Agnostic I can see all sides. About time my doubts were useful.

I can be friends with everyone and understood by no one confused? Welcome to Bemuseds strange world.

I am here for really only one reason and that is to try and let the world know what NTM has done to so many lives. I am not here to learn about faith, religion etc. I understand the concepts of the whole thing very well, so it isn't a lack of understanding on my part as to what it is you all believe and hold dear to. And I have no problem with that. However, I thought this was a site that wanted to see NTM accountable for all abuse on all levels, there are many more like me, but they feel they have no voice. And they will continue to stay silent as long as we have to keep hearing about how we lost our faith and religion because of NTM, no we lost our families and our lives. To some of us that is much bigger.

So the question is, what does everyone want from this site, as it seems to be the voice for mk's etc. I for one am willing to go away and do my own thing if it make you all more comfortable with this site. Doesn't really bother me. I just want answers to these problems and legal action to be had.

I don't have time to keep going around and around in this redundant circle since 2005 when this all started. Seems we are still on the same subjects and little effort on really getting to the dirty of taking down a corrupt and ungodly cult.

There should be no lines to be found or religious beliefs to be had in abuse and manipulations of children and adults alike. It should be a pretty standard set of morals that says this is wrong, lets fix it. So at times I am not sure what the big debate is about on understanding one another. The only reason I said anything was because I feel the faith topic has taken us off the real problem and that is abuse that any kid born in the united states has a right to be protected from. Our rights were taking away and given to NTM, they were trusted with us all and they filed the test. If this would have happened here, you would have had FEDs surrounding the base and telling the perps to come out, no lie. So all I ask is please let me know what you all want to see done, I am not out to harm anyone who is healing. I leave you with this:

Ezekiel 25:17

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.