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Hess, if you would grow up and pay attention to somethings that people write and not be so pissed off about what you "org" did you might learn something.

When a business does bad do to bad management all pay, it is your choice to be in it or not. you have a very sad idea of how things work. And the amount of disrespect you show me is amazing. Tess who are your supporting churches? Or do I need to track that down?

You are a real sad person, why the hell should I contribute to the MK fund? I am an MK that spent 20 years in your system was starved out in the jungle with my family, wasn't giving an education, nearly died of malaria countless times, was told I would never be anything that I was a loser. You want me to go on and on?? So you need to shut the hell up.

So Hess, am not going to go back and fourth with you. In the end you will remember my Name

Are you contributing to the MK fund Yunker? I didn't even bother to read your posts. If you think because I'm part of NTM that I should take the blame for all the abuse that has gone I disagree and think that's wrong. Why aren't you trying to get the individual people who actually abused the kids instead of blaming NTM for everything. A bunch of people from the Senegal field and from NTM leadership have been dismissed and some are paying monthly compensation to the MK fund. That is just the beginning. You may not think that is enough but as I said nothing that NTM does will probably ever satisfy you.

Just mind numbing at how pissed off you are at a person you don't even know and don't even care to get to know.

I'm sorry I didn't have time to read your post Yunker. I'm sorry for what happened to you. Please forgive me.

Apology accepted, lets move on from here to figure out what we can do to prevent future bad people getting into NTM. I know you are not a bad person. you just have a deep love for what you do and that's hard thing to sit and have people say bad things about it. I wouldn't even be here if I didn't have anything happen to me. I don't get a kick out of this and to be honest I don't have the time for it.

But it's the right thing to do, so I do it.

Grace earned your love, trust and respect. I think Grace overall did a good investigation. The fact of the matter is Grace is not doing the investigation. I'm sorry that they are not. I'm sorry that you have no confidence in this new investigation. I'm sorry that you were not in agreement with this new investigation. Is it so wrong to try to make the best of what is instead of constantly going back to the past. If you are unwilling to give Pat and her investigators a chance then this investigation is defeated before it's even really started. If that is the case where do we go from here? This is not propaganda this is what I really think. I speak for myself not for NTM.
I really don't mind paying into the liability fund although I'm not sure how that is applied now that there is the MK fund.

I don't want any money from NTM and have never asked for any even when they offered it to me. So I am sorry your are paying into something that they should be selling stuff to cover as an ORG. Also I would implore you to see what kind of insurance they have to cover these things. They are big enough and smart enough I am sure to carry it.

I watched my first marriage fall apart do to many things that I hadn't dealt with in NTM,, to watch the love of your life turn and walk away for the last time should be something no one has to deal with and because of problems that you had no idea where problems but thought were normal things makes it tough.

I am not sure how NTM is going about getting all the funding for this? And I have never talked to Pat, I thought she might have contacted me but I am leaving that up to NTM to say who they think should be contacted, that ball is in their park. Not up to me to go to them.

These guys would have been something more up my alley: http://www.praesidiuminc.com/about.php?sess_id=88cd4deb8a96896914ae0123e43af0cb

Tuti Hess,

I don't really care whether you agree with me or not. My voice is with the victims of these heinous crimes committed by NTM "missionaries." These were crimes, not just doing something wrong. The foundation of NTM is rotten to the core and until all this is taken care of it will never ever ever be right. Yes, usually money is involved to correct most things and in this case it is necessary. If you are the kind of person that wants to be associated with NTM then you will just have to take the bad along with the good (not that I think there is any good in NTM). That means your precious money will be part of that. Full stop.

Tuti Hess,

One more thing you seem to think that NTM is not responsible for the behaviour of their missionaries so they should be exempted and only the horrible sinful missionaries accountable for their sinful deeds. Read your own manuals, NTM is your boss so when they allow sinful behaviour they are responsible for those actions. Don't forget the cover up. Why would they want to cover up something if only the sinful missionary was responsible? NTM is corrupt and rotten to the core and until that foundation is fixed it will never be right. How you people can even pray to a Holy Righteous God is beyond me unless it is to ask forgiveness and do restoration. Full stop.