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Wow - DBARNEY - that is another time where you come across as one who is skilled at turning off conversation. Is that your intention? Maybe you are having some success with the new investigators but many are not. Please allow others to feel the disappointment and frustration with what some perceive as a sub-par solution to say the least.

You may want to be the cheerleader for this new investigation team – that is fine. But I view your comments as naïve and actually part of the NTM partyline…

dbarney says "new things are happening..." what are these new things?
How many years have we heard this? Hmm? For some of us it was more than 20 years of getting hopes up.

Since you seem to be on the "inside" dbarney, and know about the new things happening.." please share with us!

We would like to have something to believe as well.

NTM has their hands deep in the picking of these people. They all have ties to missions in one way or another. That to me means they are for NTM. I don't give a flying shit what Job they have held, that doesn't mean they are good people intelligent in all types of abuse investigations. that just means they got hired at these places. Guess what people in all those Job titles have been charged with crimes before, just like a missionary that is a pedophile happens as is the same in the others. I was waiting for them to play the previous JOB experience card. People please wake up.

Yunker and others who can't stand NTM. Nothing that NTM does will ever satisfy you because you have made it very clear that you don't trust NTM and you think they are crap. Have you considered starting your own investigation, spending some of your own money, researching and hiring your own investigators. I'm serious. That way I would think you would have more confidence and control in the process. You may not like what NTM is doing but they are doing something and it is being paid for by my husband and I and every single member of NTM USA and those who support NTM. I don't know how many people in the end will be shown to have been involved in abuse but I hope it will be 20% or less. The rest of us the other 80% have to make up for those losers.

AMEN TUTI!!! It seems that many here will never be satisfied but are not willing to spend their own money to investigate this. No gratefulness for ntm paying for the grace report, no gratefulness for ntm hiring others to do investigations, no evidence of any grace extended to any that disagree with the angry ;and bitter out here.

haha nice words of Grace guys. You truly do act like hateful morons. I am not the bitter one or angry one, I do nothing but shatter you bubble of your little dream world of NTM and for that you don't like me. If your opinion mattered to me I would let you know. Grow up

I gave NTM 20 years of my life, that is enough for me to say what I feel. Since you Jerry and Tuti Hess, who ever you are want to help so much how about sending me some money?? Pull your head out your ass.

Oops that seems a bit harsh. Myself having to pay for investigating abuse of myself is sort of like, ummm, a turkey voting for Christmas. Anyway my research has already been paid for. My family home was confiscated by NTM and it took many years and a good threat of exposure for fraud before it was sorted. So if my contribution could come out of the interest lost, then I'm all sorted. Speaking of Turkeys, reminds me of a saying, "It's hard to fly with the eagles when you deal with Turkeys", keep smiling. Bemused

Funny how you guys never mention when I write things like this below. yet will blow your top when I speak the truth.

I haven't been on this site in a long time.
Do I intend to be very vocal about NTM, yes. Do I say what I feel needs to be said, yes I do. With that said, I have gone back and forth over the past few months wondering if my approach was the wrong way to deal with NTM. After many hateful emails, etc., and a few other sorted things, I gave into feeling like shit again about myself, speaking my thoughts, and how I felt. Yes it worked, NTM, you sent me back into a dark hole that I had thought I had overcome. Not only did I feel abused by NTM but by the people I thought I was speaking up for!

I am not religious, not in your sense, never have been, but I am spiritual, and that is my token. If you don't like that, well that isn't my problem. I am not here to make nice and play happy memories of god’s work. I don't believe in it and it has nothing to do with rebelling. It has to do with who I am. So for all the trauma and abuse I have seen in NTM to be pushed aside as just an angry anti-Christian from the people I thought would understand abuse in NTM, really pissed me off and hurt. Yeah I am man enough to say it hurt, hell even cried over it.

Out of all I have accomplished in my life how could I be brought to my knees so fast?? How could this forum and emails have such an affect that I had to go back on my medications so I could leave my house, so I could stop the nightmares of NTM employee's trying to kill me? Now to clarify before it all gets taken out of context, no they didn't try to kill me in real life. This was an example of the mental affects NTM has had on me, for example the nightmares. They killed my soul, my joy for life, my sense of worth. That’s what the dream symbolized. The answer was easy, even though I have seen people and spent enough money to support a mission family on professional help and medication; it will never take away that feeling of thinking I am worthless to another human being or that my friends are power in your pocket.

So here I am today to say sorry if we got off on the wrong foot, I am not religious, and you can think of me as an atheist that believes there is a creator. I was harmed in NTM, not because God was mad at me, not because I was bad, but because I wasn't liked for me. What happened to me is all very real. I don't blame my parents, never will. They got suckered into it with no idea what was about to happen and never knew how to get out.
Am I pissed at NTM, yes I am very pissed at them. They had no right to dictate what I believed in, no right to scare me or my family, no right to watch us starve, no right to hold us under their thumb.
So I want to know how many of you have had enough. They haven't stopped, they are still trying to cover up and move on. They won’t even do what Jesus would have done and admit wrong. They are more like the Devil here, trying to blame others even the abused, taking no personal responsibly, saying they aren't responsible for their employee's. Last I checked anyone who has ever lived on the field or been in NTM, knows they have a hand in everything you do. Yes here in the states in a court where the people don't understand that, it might pass, so now they are going to legally lie their way out of it. they are playing every trick in the book I can see the devil playing. I have seen enough, I have hurt long enough, how about you?

Since poor Tuti Hess and her husband are having to pay for all of us yet I have never asked for a dime or anything except an honest admittance to the way they treated us kids in NTM was horrible and wrong, it seems to me it is time to have them really pay by a lawsuit. You are not safe people, you just keep going ahead and really pissing me off. You think I am just going to keep taking this crap from you over and over? You sure seem to think you are safe NTM.

I do find it funny that you think I should Pay for the wrongs NTM has done to me and be grateful for the little they have done after being pushed to do so by many. You have no respect for anyone that has been abused by NTM and yes that's what you are doing right now, you are keeping the abuse going by not being able to admit how wrong it all was. for that I feel sorry for you all and the denial you live in.

I have paid my whole life for things NTM has done to me, maybe you should open your eyes to what is really going on in what I type.