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Author: | Aussie [ Wed May 21, 2014 4:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
Yeah. And ICE got Scott Kennell and his filthy computer!!!!!!!!!! I know it is hard for victims to trust other people sometimes, but look at the choices we have. And look at who is getting the results!!!!! NTM is not frightened about the IHART investigation, they already know how they are going to react because it is all predetermined with nice legal language and a bit of spiritual mumbo jumbo to fool the masses. Stuff the IHART investigation, send in ICE to really find out who was doing what to innocent little kids. Then watch NTM squirm, because they already know how powerful ICE is. 58 years powerful!!!!!!! Anyway they probably already have NTM firmly on their radar, because it fits the profile of the perfect organisation that will be hiding paedophiles and Scott Kennell is living proof!!!!!!!!!! |
Author: | dbarney [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
From IHART, with permission “At this point in time IHART does not know which school will be next. As soon as we do the information will go out. I want to state categorically IHART is not controlled by NTM. We are an independent group of investigators that NTM has contracted with to conduct the investigations. As I stated up front, formal communication will be at a minimum during the investigations as there is not much that can be reported. I will state again if you have any questions you can send me an e-mail or call me and I will be glad to talk with you. As to the statement about a web site, IHART is working on it. NTM does not censor any communication sent out by IHART. As to my qualifications for this position – I have 10 years + experience in this field. The investigators have years of experience conducting investigations of abuse and are uniquely qualified. IHART is not GRACE and has its own policies and procedures to comply with. If you have any questions contact me at: pat.mkguardian@gmail.com 256-469-6843” Pat Pat Hendrix IHART Coordinator pat.mkguardian@gmail.com 256-469-6843 (o) 407-304-8476 (c) |
Author: | darthjaded [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
It seems that what those from Vianapolis posted that the Panama group has valid points |
Author: | darthjaded [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
I think there's a lot of people that want to talk about their policy and the way they want to do things and also how mks who have been abused have to respond and be grateful for. I don't hear a lot of asking the mks, so what is the point of this whole sham? |
Author: | Aussie [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
With all due respect, the letter from IHART/Pat Hendrix is old!!!!!!!!!! If IHART is totally independent from NTM, why was this statement issued "NTM will make an apology in person, by phone or in writing to any abuse victims who are willing to permit IHART to provide their contact information to NTM."? It should have read. "IHART wishes to advise that NTM is offering apologies, please contact them directly or go to their website, because we do not wish to have our independence compromised" Look IHART will keep taking it's 40 pieces of silver from NTM, keep denying it is controlled by NTM's lawyers to get the least damaging result for the corporation and we will be expected to believe it because someone who can't communicate properly says they have some experience and some "uniquely qualified" investigators. We've seen how badly NTM handled the arrest of Scott Kennell and the absolute back tracking when they "forced Gary Earl" to resign only after public exposure. We all knew what Boz's and GRACES credentials were and we knew their excellent track record. At best IHART is a bad experiment but more likely it is a deliberate cynical farce to get exactly what NTM wants!!!!!!!!! Wake up folks. NTM leadership does not care about MKs, it is a big business and we are causing losses. We are just a bunch of complaining predominantly women to them. They don't treat their own women right, why would they bother with us? I think I have said enough and should probably stop at this point. God Bless all of you who are courageous and fight this outrage. |
Author: | Raz [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
MK Safety Net has just posted several important documents. As we move forward in our process with investigations of abuse of MKs in NTM, here are some criteria to consider. https://www.facebook.com/MKSafetyNet?fref=nf Criteria for Evaluating Investigation Teams Updated Aug 14th, 2014 It is always difficult for former and current MK's and their families to know when to report abuse, and to whom the report should be directed. The first step is to report it to local law enforcement and child protection services, according to the laws in the country in which the abuse was committed, where the perpetrator and the victim(s) are now living and in the state or province in which the mission agency is incorporated. Another step is to report the abuse to the mission agency / denomination which employs the alleged abuser and the victim. Often there are multiple victims and abusers over many years, and an Independent Investigation is required. Historically victims and their families have always needed to lobby for these Independent Investigations. Due to the desire to protect their organization and because of the costs involved, mission organizations and denominations have resisted truly independent investigations. It is often very difficult for victims to determine who the people on the proposed Investigation Team are, and what their relationship is to the mission community they are investigating. The relationship of the investigators to mission leadership generally determines who will be interviewed during the investigation as well as who will receive interim and final reports. The Child Safety Protection Network (CSPN) is a coalition of mission agencies that establishes what they term as Independent Investigation teams into allegations of abuse. The key benchmark CSPN uses for being “independent” is that at least one member of the investigative team be from a mission organization other than the one employing the alleged abuser(s). Thus, CSPN’s investigations are primarily conducted by mission agency/denomination personnel, which is one reason MK Safety Net cannot endorse CSPN investigations. Victims are able to ensure the investigation into allegations of abuse is independent from mission/denomination leadership by using the following criteria. It is, of course, important that victim(s) require that this information be provided to them before agreeing to any proposed Investigation Team recommended by the mission. The Terms and Conditions the Investigation Team signs with the mission organization(s) should also include these criteria in order to ensure the cooperation of the organization(s) in providing needed information. 1. Members of the Investigation Team or Recommendation Team should not currently be missionaries or employees of a mission agency or denomination. Mission agencies should disclose both past and present relationships the recommended Investigation Team members have had with mission agencies. If they were employed as missionaries or in other capacities within the mission community in the past, it is important for survivors to know the status of their current relationship to those mission agencies. 2. The scope of the investigation should include all known vulnerable individuals to whom the alleged perpetrator had access. This includes contacting these potential victims to inform them of the investigation, and providing them with the opportunity to be a part of the investigation. Parents of potential victims should also be contacted regarding the investigation and be invited to report to the Investigation Team. 3. The original final report and recommendations of the Independent Investigations should be made available to: Victims People who reported abuse Families of victims Leadership of the mission agency / denomination Past and present supporting churches / individuals Leadership of the national church in the country where the abuse occurred It is important to extend this information to local church leadership in the country where the abuse occurredbecause, in many cases, mission personnel have access to national children. 4. All information identifying the victims who reported the abuse should be removed from the report before it is distributed. 5. When criminal conduct has been determined, a report should be made to the police in the jurisdiction inwhich the perpetrator is living as well as national church leadership and police in the country in which the abuse occurred. For further information or support, please contact MK Safety Net at info@mksafetynet.net Tamara Rice Beverly Shellrude Thompson Writer and Editor MK Safety Net Canada, President Emeritus http://www.mksafetynet.net/ |
Author: | Raz [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
MK Safety Net is endorsing GRACE for independent investigations into abuse of MKs. At this point, I don't think we are aware of any other investigative agencies which are endorsed by MKSN. In my opinion, GRACE has been unwavering in their professionalism, compassion, and thoroughness. Yes, they do advocate for the victims of abuse, not for agencies which protect abusers. Would anyone dispute that Jesus would do the same? Announcement - MK Safety Net Endorses G.R.A.C.E. Updated Aug 14th, 2014 MK Safety Net believes that independent investigations are vital to finding the facts and scope of the abuse that has taken place in mission settings. MK Safety Net has created a list of Investigation Teams currently looking into reports of historic abuse that occurred in educational settings operated by various mission organizations. http://t.co/Ox6vGehs3E We would like to to see all of the groups doing investigative work meet a basic set of criteria. We have posted a list of criteria to use when evaluating the operating and reporting procedures of Investigation Teams for purposes of endorsement. http://t.co/SoL7ZpN2CT G.R.A.C.E. (Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment) is the only organization that meets all of these criteria thus far. http://netgrace.org G.R.A.C.E. is truly independent and only G.R.A.C.E has the professional and fully qualified staff for the challenging task of investigating abuse within the communities we come from. For these reasons MK Safety Net is endorsing G.R.A.C.E. for investigations into abuse within our communities. We are hopeful that other investigative organizations will also integrate these best practices for Independent Investigations in their operating and reporting procedures. This will help to ensure the protection and safety of vulnerable children and adults currently in the care of mission organizations, as well as enable survivors of abuse to be more fully supported in their healing journey. Dale Ingraham President, MK Safety Net USA http://www.mksafetynet.net MK Safety Net’s entire suite of documents related to Investigation Teams can be found at. Investigations ~ Document Suite note.io/1yzNo0X |
Author: | Raz [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:50 am ] |
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Author: | Bemused [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Future investigations |
Wonder what the average Triber will make of these revelations? Probably not a lot, bit of gossip maybe, but unless it directly impacts on their daily existence, it will be business as usual. And the flies will circle the tangled web, until one day . . . |
Author: | Demostenes Dalai Mud Lama [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:00 pm ] |
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