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Has anyone heard of this being done?

It was supposed to have been done by a third party to all current NTMers and those who left within 5 years of the date of the Grace report. It has been over a year and a half since I left NTM and I have heard a word from anybody. I have written Andy Kline recently, but no response has been give.

Again, anybody have any updates on this?

sorry for all the grammar errors.

Ajax, most of us are no longer a part of the NTM scene. I have heard nothing about this survey from anyone I know who is still in the mission.

Andy Kline was a good person to contact about this. I hope you get some answers.

I asked Andy about this last year. He said his gut feeling was that nothing would be done until the lawsuits were finished because the board already had their hands full. I asked for permission (at that time) to post his reply and he specifically asked me not to. So I have paraphrased his reply.

Ok, so I did finally hear from Andy, and had some good talks with him even though I didn't agree with his take on some stuff. But I got really pissed off after his last email. I had asked him how the iHART investigation differs from GRACE. He said he wanted to talk on the phone about it. I said email works better for me and here was his reply.

"Via email all I can say is that there should not be significant differences between outcomes of the two. There some differences, but they are not things I'm comfortable talking about on email"

Seriously?!?! What about this new investigation are they "not comfortable" to put into writing?

They don't write too many things these days---so there will be no record.
Hmmmm.....
I heard this in person from a "leader" about 4 years ago.

How about recording the phone calls?
Oh, that may be illegal without permission.
DDML, over to you.........

From what I understand about phone calls is you can record them as it takes only one person to know they are recorded even if it is the one recording. Does anybody know this for a fact? I am sure you are correct in that they don't want a paper trail or should I say computer trail? Full stop.

No paper trail
No shredding
Big savings on the electric bill.
But you could always go the slow way and use scissors.