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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:57 pm 
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Here's a good article about how it all starts:

http://sojo.net/blogs/2013/06/12/beginning-addressing-roots-sexual-violence-church


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I'm still struggling a lot to face the past, and just can't share too much yet, but I was abused as an MK. I thought it was a normal part of being an MK, just part of life, part of what God expected. Later in my teen years, I became a PK where abuses continued, as if a sign on my head invited it.
Then as a young adult, I attended a Christian university and was raped by a student who then went out to serve in "full time" christian service.
I struggle to trust churches. I struggle to trust God. I try very hard to block out the years of being an MK. Actually, I guess I try to block out all the years until I was an adult on my own when I no longer had to be someone else's victim.
Right now, life is hard. The memories bring confusion and shame. I'm getting counseling, but so many things seem impossible to talk about. How does one explain to a regular American counselor how things work on the mission field? How do you explain how we were manipulated to believe that any disruption would cause the local people to go to hell? Why were we so unprotected? The memories are humiliating and shameful. I keep wondering if I will ever be free from them.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:25 am 
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It's a strange world we live in, isn't it. We're not exactly at home anywhere anymore, for many of us.

I've never tried to find a councilor (they haven't really invented them down here), but I can understand that it would be hard finding someone who has a real good insight into the psycological trauma specific to the life of an MK. As you say, growing up thinking that the totally wrong and abnormal was normal.
I'm almost 50 and it wasn't till I was 48ish that the reoccuring nightmare of not being able to escape the boarding school I went to suddenly stopped. I've not had it since and now dreams relating to the past have suddenly changed to a balance of power where I'm in control and it is much nicer. I spent decades post the MK experience in virtual isolation, saw very few other MKs and knew that what I'd seen and heard was very wrong, yet the elephant in my room was constantly whispering in my head that it never happened, I was ungrateful, had a bitter spirit. He told all his associates the same thing (and he still does), but when I found out, courtesy of this excellent site that many others had similar experiences and that NTM was a nightmare for others, a great weight was lifted. Then I wrote and wrote, my way through the questions in my brain and although I still don't have all the answers, I've got enough confirmation to firmly believe that I was right all those decades and NTM was not the happy wonderful experience that I was being constantly told that I had, but just didn't believe I had. It also gave me the confidence to, in one big fiery conversation, confront my elephant, find that he was a complete fraund and walk away from him. Oh the relief on that one. Yes it has made me an orphan, but this is so much better than unwillingly participating in a big family lie!
For me, I've gone on a journey that has culminated in becoming a "Sympathetic Agnostic". It's not a destination I would recommend to anyone, but I have no guilt about it, it is just where I am comfortable being at, given my strange past. Feel no guilt at questioning the very core of what you believe, for it is much better to question than to blindly follow just because of where you find yourself.

Share whatever you feel comfortable on here of your own journey. Many of us have found it theraputic. Just do whatever is comfortable. Some of us will reply with words of comfort, some will put smilies, you might even get a message or two in your inbox and if I'm around you'll probably be bored silly with my verbal diahorrea :lol:

So good luck with the Elephant taming, think there is a poem about it around here somewhere, I'll go find it for you.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:28 am 
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Ta, da. Found it :) . Hope this helps (sometimes rabbiting on about strange animals does, we have a whole Noahs ark full of animals on this site).

I used to have an elephant
In my room it stomped about
It whispered in my little ear
Messages of hate and doubt

It told me I saw nothing
That I was an ungrateful child
And I had a wicked immagination
Which ran so very wild

Then I found other elephants
Were in rooms of many more
Each one magically disappearing
Behind some magic door

Then they'd reappear again
In dreams of nights of terror
But corner them at your peril
For they trumpeted Heresy and Error

So what became of my elephant?
I gave it an almighty whack
And it wandered off into the sunset
Muttering it was an unfair attack

Something strange then happened
The room felt whole again
And I gave thanks for my whacking tool
The mighty little pen


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:49 pm 
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kudzu wrote:
I'm getting counseling, but so many things seem impossible to talk about. How does one explain to a regular American counselor how things work on the mission field? How do you explain how we were manipulated to believe that any disruption would cause the local people to go to hell? Why were we so unprotected? The memories are humiliating and shameful. I keep wondering if I will ever be free from them.


This is so true, kudzu ... a common theme for many of us. How to help anyone outside of the mission world understand the life we lived as MK, and the expectations and pressures. It felt "normal" to us then. Only now do many of us comprehend that there were many aspects of it that were abnormal, and sometimes even unhealthy. Or completely toxic.


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Did you say POISON Raz????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww

This could be 'good poison' a day like today!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:06 pm 
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:)

Rockin' out right now ...

Turn up the volume!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:33 pm 
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Raz wrote:
This is so true, kudzu ... a common theme for many of us. How to help anyone outside of the mission world understand the life we lived as MK, and the expectations and pressures. It felt "normal" to us then. Only now do many of us comprehend that there were many aspects of it that were abnormal, and sometimes even unhealthy. Or completely toxic.

It's not quite the same, but the book "Third Culture Kids" can certainly provide a lot of insight and help.


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mosquito bite wrote:
Try it!
Today may be another day!
In the" NEW" ntm.
We contacted over 8 higher ups---most of whom we knew.
We heard from one.
ONE
And he said---essentially---
You have got to stick with ntm think or you will be out.
Being out is the best thing that ever happened to us.
There is MUCH to be done outside of ntm.
But it does take a bit of courage.
AnotherMK---you hit the nail on the head.
It is indeed scary.



I remember, not long before I left NTM, I was feeling so confused, messed up and like something was twisted. Well, I knew I had been all twisted up from them, but I felt everything was sooo wrong. By Gods grace and in no way on my own was I finally able to go to GOD alone, (NO NTM) and ask him to get me out of "this CULT". I could in no way at all get out of it on my own....not in the state they had left me in. I was sooo afraid "of It" and soooo afraid to be "out of it." They had me just where they wanted me. BUT GOD, and by the grace of GOD (without NTM)....he pulled me out of it. I was so messed up, and I know that I have already said that, I don't know how else to emphasize it any more though, than to repeat it. I'm still messed up, but I have been blessed by friends like you all who know what I am talking about. It is a closed world, what we came out of. So closed that no one outside of it understands us. It is sad how we are all having to learn how to walk again, and yet exciting that we are free from the bonds that we were being held by. At least we are learning to be free. It is taking a long time in my case, but slowly I am getting there. To all the friends that have and ARE still walking me through the smoke in my life, I thank you. I couldn't do this without your support.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:13 pm 
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We are thrilled to be your cheering section ... IWILLfly again!! We know you will!!!


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