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"An interesting problem that has not been completely addressed is: What should be done with abuse allegations and resultant findings of an internal investigation in relation to the field of service? There is concern with regard to what authorities on some foreign fields of service might do to the offender. Since NTM does not usually involve local authorities in allegations and internal investigations, is NTM in some way violating local law as well as jeopardizing the mission’s presence in that country?"
NTM Policy Manual on Abuse
Revised October 2002
Pages 12-13


That's a little different from the PNG Constitution:
"We declare our first goal to be for every person to be dynamically involved in the
process of freeing himself or herself from every form of domination or oppression so
that each man or woman will have the opportunity to develop as a whole person in
relationship with others."
http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public ... 117452.pdf


One one hand you have New Tribes, committed to protecting pedophiles from local governments while concerned, not with the welfare of the child, but maintaining its presence in the country.
On the other hand, you have the PNG government committed to protecting its people from domination or oppression.


Raise your hand if you like Papua New Guinea.
Boo loudly if you like New Tribes.

Very interesting point.

Didn't someone say "Render unto Caesar what is Caesars" ? Or interpreted into modern day language, obey the laws of the land that you are in.

So if a group of lets say, PNG citizens for some reason bought a big paddock next to lets say CrossView Australia's base and performed acts that contrevened the laws of Australia, lets say molestation of little girls. Would the members of CrossView Australia inform the authorities, my guess they would do so very quickly. They would fully expect the guests of Australia to obey the laws of Australia.

But it doesn't work in reverse, that's a bit strange. Wonder what foreign governments would do if they knew what was going on on those big opulent bases?

Good point, DDML
I think you have mentioned this before.
Very good point.
BUT..........i......still.....think.....you should be a little nicer to pngmk.........
ALL of us need to understand that point.
So thanks for making it so clear.
Calling out in love.......

Of course you are accepted here, pngmk.
Hang in there with us!

DDML, it's not about whatever kind of blanket you mentioned.
I don't have time right now to go back and re-read.
It's about calling out in love......
Need I remind us? ...........
No, we all know.

Bemused, Talking about the laws of the land in reference to Australia. When we arrived here in 1979 we had permanent visas before we became citizens. That simply meant as long as we obeyed the laws of Australia we could stay as long as we wanted making sure we weren't out of the country any longer than a 3 year period. There were certain laws that could retrieve our visas, point in case, some American was a "peeping tom" in some women's change rooms and got sent back to the good ole' USA. I have to admit when PM Keating got in he changed a few things but in reality it was just for money as they made the permanent visa renewable with some good Aussie dollars. I don't understand any country that lets foreigners in and that foreigner is not subject to the laws of the land of said adopted country. I can't believe these mission organizations didn't have full knowledge of laws that would "get them kicked out" of a country they were serving in. Maybe that is one of the reason they thought they had to "cover up" such horrible sin in the camp. Full stop.

DDML, I am raising my hand and now I am booing. Full stop.

You are one talented woman, Pamela E. Bennett!

But very good!
I would love to see it.
Can you put it on youtube?

Yes mosquito bite, I can multi-task even at my age. Full stop.

And you can tell when I'm on the level, I dribble out both sides of my mouth .