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 Post subject: Re: NTM Arrests
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:50 am 
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Kyle, I know it seems effing crazy. But look how hard it is for me to be accusatory. I only went to a NTM school for 2 years. I keep in touch with one friend from there. For a missionary to denounce the mission that they have bought into? Paid with their life, their identity, their children? It makes me nauseated, have sharp stomach pains at the thought of being on the field trying to make a decision like that. The mental unrest, the physical symptoms, the spiritual torture would lead them back into the familiar place of considering themselves sinning to think that way. So then, when they are at chapel, and a lovely age old hymn is sung, they repent, and make a decision like the others they have made--to stop thinking about it. To stop reading. To stop listening.

David Darks book that we talked about earlier . . .would they read it if it were sent to them?

Going crazy here with you, buddy.


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What you are describing is a cult mentality. But for many that is to uncomfortable to call it that, because the ends justifies the means. That level of control and elimination of free will is exactly what cults do. Of course no cult ever calls itself a cult, they convince themselves that they are the only ones who are right, but always at the top is a person or group of favoured few who are doing very nicely out of it all, despite what they tell everyone else.
Wakey wakey folks, this is just another cult and once you are sucked in it is hard to get it out of your head!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Just have a chance to stop in again and repeat you all and myself that it is a cult mentality. In talking with a friend last night I explained how we were trained to deny ourselves, give up all, take the cross and sacrifice our lives on the line like good little soldiers. That was bad enough for me, a single person. But it is criminal that parents were expected to sacrifice the lives of their innocent children. How cruel.
I remember a specific incident in a seminar where we were asked if it would be ok to deny Christ to save the lives of our children or coworker's children. I said yes. Peter denied Christ three times. God would know that we were doing that by word just to spare the life or lives of innocent children. I was condemned for that statement because possibly the child would be harmed anyway even after my recant. Yet I believe differently. I would still be saved because omniscient God would know I was doing that by word in hopes to save the life of a child. I was condemned for that statement. ntm preaches about a gracious, loving God yet do not extend grace themselves .


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I think that is pretty much the nuts and bolts of it. Blind obedience to a cause that a select few were directing.

Problem is in New Zealands case, the person directing went to jail, so then difficult choices had to be made. And the choice was made to cover it up, not check if the offender/leader had any other victims and lie about it. Then when asked for an explanation, threaten legal action and so the mess gets worse and worse, as more and more Tribers and ex Tribers find out what really was going on and most say and do nothing.
Therefore they are condoning a serious crime for the sake of a cause that is rapidly becoming discredited. And who's fault is that it is becoming discredited? Not mine, not any other MK that dares to look into this and ask questions. It is the fault of those who made the wrong choices, they have ruined their own mission.


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The judge threw the book at him because he not only damaged those he was supposed to be serving, but he also damaged the reputation of one very powerful country and they are not going to put up with this crap any longer!!!!!!!!!! And all this jungle boy rubbish is dribble, he was a monster and he got put away long enough so that he will never come out and hurt another child.

How many other Tribers are now terrified of coming home, because they know they could be the next one to be questioned at the airport? And how many Tribers are deleting child porn off their computers and hoping that the trails haven't already lead to them?

Go ICE and three cheers for the judge (who of course was a woman).


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Yes, I noticed that too!

Three cheers for Chief U.S. District Judge Anne C. Conway!

http://www.justice.gov/usao/flm/press/2 ... nnell.html


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Finally, abuse is being taken serious, this one anyway. Full stop


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I wonder what the exit strategy is for those at the top of the pecking order? Not unreasonable to speculate that one has been discussed. There is only so much damage control that can be done, before thoughts turn to the possibility that there is a lot more water coming in than the pumps can cope with.
Scott Kennell being incarcerated and the media publicity would have torn a pretty nasty hole in the side and the band aid solution made matters worse.
Wonder if the assets have started to be "placed in safe keeping"?


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