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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:10 pm 
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thanks for starting a thread for this, O.T.

yes, I too add my heartfelt thanks to Larry Brown and the EB.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:25 am 
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Check out Diane Mikitson's comment on NTM ABUSE tab. It is very encouraging as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:06 am 
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I'm copying this here, in case some of you are only checking the forums section:


October 18th, 2010 at 17:19 - Diane Mikitson

I’ve been asked by others to say more about my call from Larry Brown.

I have not met Larry in person but after about 50 minutes of talking with him, I trust him.
It was a surprise call on my cell phone as I was driving to an appointment. When I realized who it was, I pulled over to give my full attention to his call.
I am not going to quote him exactly so I don’t want anything I say to be interpreted as his actual words.

He told me that he is involved in this about 80 hours a week and he will not stop until all is exposed and dealt with. Unsolicited, he said he is not about saving NTM. His only purpose may be this situation. (Sort of sounded like an “Esther” comment. I have often felt that Kari was an “Esther” being equipped for such a time as this.) When he said his wife was concerned about him because this totally absorbs all his time and his lack of sleep all he could think about was just one victim’s tortured nights and scarred life.

He said that in 1997 they really did change. But that change did not deal with the sexual abuse issue and it has never been dealt with but is going to be dealt with now. Nothing else takes precedence to him. He will not stop.

Larry had to pause a couple times where he was in tears. He said there were many tears in the board meetings.

He is meeting with GRACE the end of this week but has been in almost daily conversations with BOZ. We discussed GRACE and why they have earned such respect from the victims.

He mentioned a letter John had sent the Executive Committee in 1998 that was never answered and said he asked the Board to read it. He said it still deserves a response – one that was never sent.

He said the mission is complicated now since there are individual entities. Each country operates independently.

I asked him why he thought people like Dan Rabe (NTM Senegal Field leader) were silent. I told him Dan Rabe performed the marriage ceremony for Bonnie and Ryan and Kari spent time with his family during her 2008-2009 year in Senegal. Dan and others from NTM Senegal including Dave McKee and former partners have not made one move to contact any of us. I told him that now that all know the extent of the evil committed against children I would think they would have rushed to communicate. He didn’t have an answer for them.

He told me the Executive Board asked Ron Abram, prior to his leaving the village, to communicate to the Budik tribal people that he was wrong in saying John was in sin. He doesn’t know if Ron did that.

I asked Larry why he wasn’t calling Kari. He would like face-to-face meetings with Kari, joie, Bonnie and us. He mentioned that he wants it to happen at a neutral place.

I am not a gullible person.
I believe Larry is focused on the right things. Change is hard. Larry has some significant people he is accountable to and I believe his call to me brings me in to that arena. He called John and talked with him personally the week before. He said he wants John and me to call him any time. He also asked me to give Kari his cell phone number.

Prayer. Just a word. But done to the God who hears and cares and done with a believing heart brings change. I know. He is still changing me.
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Diane Mikitson
October 16th, 2010 at 00:23 |

Larry Brown called me earlier today and I am encouraged by our conversation. God is working in the leaders. I will continue praying for them as they make real changes.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:04 am 
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This is good to hear! Prayers, transparency, and clarion calls for justice are rushing down as waters and becoming a mighty stream . . . .

Keep pressing on!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:18 am 
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It looks like the ship is starting to turn. But don't slack up now, there's still a long ways to go.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:20 am 
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Well done, Mr. Brown. Thank you.


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It's amazing what can happen when men get out of God's way, do the right thing, and allow for the Spirit to shine forth in their life. The trip down to GA by Larry, et. al., demonstrated that God can get glory (witness the amazement of the sheriff and others at the actions they took!). That act probably did as much to shine the difference that having God in one's life can foster, than preaching the actual gospel message. (Remember St. Francis of Assisi's great quote: "Preach the gospel at all times; if necessary, use words."

It is heartening to see the present leadership understand that it is of more consequence to deal with present sin and shortcomings than to cover it up under the guise of "not hurting the Gospel" or "preserving the mission".

I think Larry and others are finally seeing that it is incumbent upon us to worry about our places before God . . .keep ourselves accountable before Him (and others). Let God worry about the mission . . .it is His to begin with!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:29 am 
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publius wrote:
It's amazing what can happen when men get out of God's way, do the right thing, and allow for the Spirit to shine forth in their life. The trip down to GA by Larry, et. al., demonstrated that God can get glory (witness the amazement of the sheriff and others at the actions they took!). That act probably did as much to shine the difference that having God in one's life can foster, than preaching the actual gospel message. (Remember St. Francis of Assisi's great quote: "Preach the gospel at all times; if necessary, use words."

It is heartening to see the present leadership understand that it is of more consequence to deal with present sin and shortcomings than to cover it up under the guise of "not hurting the Gospel" or "preserving the mission".

I think Larry and others are finally seeing that it is incumbent upon us to worry about our places before God . . .keep ourselves accountable before Him (and others). Let God worry about the mission . . .it is His to begin with!


Where did you hear about the amazement of the sheriff and such? Was it in a news article?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:42 am 
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MKSheri--- answering your question....this was originally posted in the Fanda forum.

Bonnie wrote:
Dear Former Fanda Students:

As mentioned in their weekly update, last week members of the NTM Executive Committee travelled to Georgia and Indiana for the purpose of hand delivering the GRACE report and the termination letter to both David Brooks and Phil Gates. GRACE was encouraged to talk with NTM regarding these visits and hear of their actions in finally confronting these abusers. We thought it is important that each of you know more about what happened and that perhaps the steps taken by NTM regarding David Brooks and Phil Gates may encourage you in some degree.

1. David Brooks:

On Tuesday, October 5 2010, Larry Brown and Dan Kreider travelled to Georgia and initially met with David Brooks' pastor. The pastor had just received the link to the GRACE Report and had just finished the first 15 pages when Larry and Dan arrived. The pastor was extremely disturbed about what he read in the report and did not take a defensive position regarding David Brooks. NTM explained that they were there because they believed that NTM was responsible to warn the pastor about David Brooks in order that he could take steps to prevent Brooks from abusing anyone at the church. The pastor expressed support for what NTM was doing and claimed that he was shocked because he had never been informed about the abuse by Brooks. Shortly thereafter, Brooks was called to the church whereby Larry and Dan informed him that they were there to confront him about his sexual abuse of over 9 children that had caused so much harm and destruction to so many. David Brooks did not deny the charges and did not appear to be defensive. Though he did claim that this abuse only took place during that era on the Senegal field. David Brooks quoted the verse, “it is better to put a millstone around a neck and cast into the sea than that he should offend one of these little ones.” He stated that he would rather that that millstone would have been on his neck because how wretched he has felt and the damage this has caused over the years for everyone. Larry asked David if he was aware of what the MKs and their families have lost over the past 25 years because of his abuse. David said he "understood".

Towards the end of the meetings, David Brooks asked what he could do? He wanted to apologize to NTM and to the MKs. Dan and Larry responded that at this time most of the MK’s didn’t want an apology, but wanted him to pay for what he did. Prior to leaving, Larry and Dan presented David Brooks and his pastor with a copy of the GRACE report. Larry and Dan left the meeting while the pastor and David Brooks continued to meet.

On the following morning, Dan and Larry met with Pike County Sheriff, Jimmy Thomas, for the purpose of providing him with a copy of the letter NTM had sent to David Brooks regarding his retroactive termination. Larry expressed that NTM's purpose in meeting was so that the Sheriff would be aware of what David Brooks had done to the children at Fanda for the purpose of possibly assisting the Sheriff in the future if abuse claims are every made against David Brooks. The Sheriff read the letter and then asked his assistant to see if there had been any reported allegations on David. There were none. The Sheriff expressed gratitude to Larry and Dan for providing him this information. He stated that he had been Sheriff for 11 years and had never had anyone or any institution do something like this. The Sheriff stated that he was so impressed by NTM stopping by, and wished more churches would do the same when they are aware of someone who could be a danger to the community.

2. Phil Gates

Marv Ketcham and Paul Wyma traveled to Indiana to meet with Phil Gates. Upon arriving at Phil's home, they rang the doorbell and no one came to the door though they could see someone walking around inside the house. After ringing the doorbell a second time, Phil Gates came around the corner of the house. After Marv and Paul introduced themselves as being members of the New Tribes Mission Executive Board, Phil was asked if he had seen the GRACE Report. He said that he hadn’t seen the report. Paul and Marv informed Phil Gates that they had a copy of the GRACE Report for him as well as a letter from the Executive Board. Phil Gates refused to take either document. He said that he wouldn’t take them or anything else from NTM. He claimed, “You’ve done me and my wife and family enough damage. Now I can’t even get a referral from NTM for a job. How can I explain the gap in my resume of all the years I served with NTM?” Furthermore, Phil Gates argued that NTM was handling this situation in an "ungodly manner". He strongly questioned how what NTM was doing to him and his family was going to help "those kids"?
Phil Gates then talked a bit about the relationship that he had with the kids in his dorm. He said that nearly all of the MKs "loved" he and his wife. He claimed that they tried to do what each parent wanted, but they soon realized that they couldn’t please everyone. At this point, Marv Ketcham explained the damage many of the kids in their dorm are living with as a result of Phil's actions. Phil Gates immediately made it very clear that he wasn’t responsible for any of those problems. He failed to take responsibility for any of his actions. At that point, he requested that Marv and Paul leave while once again refusing to take a copy of the GRACE Report and termination letter. Phil appeared to be very angry throughout the meeting.

On the following day, Marv and Paul attempted unsuccessfully to meet with the local Sheriff. However, they were able to meet with member of the Court personnel and informed her it was important for them to meet with the Sheriff as soon as possible. She informed them that the Sheriff would not be in until later that evening but that she would be meeting with him and would give him the copy of the Gates termination letter. Marv attached his business card to the letter in case the Sheriff had any follow up questions regarding Phil Gates.
It is very true that in many ways the response by NTM to David Brooks and Phil Gates is too little too late. We do not disagree. However, it is important to remember that this Executive Board was not in authority when David Brooks and Phil Gates acted to hurt and destroy so many lives. Thus, though they still represent the institution, it remains our hope and prayer that they represent a new era of leadership..an era that has zero tolerance for any form of abuse..an era whereby those who hurt children will be immediately confronted, reported, and removed. We are encouraged by the fact that NTM went beyond the scope of our recommendations to travel to these two locations, confront the abusers, inform their church (Phil does not attend church), and communicate with local law enforcement regarding these two dangers to society. These actions by NTM leadership seem consistent with a heart that desires to finally do the right thing for the right reasons. Let us remain hopeful as we continue to be watchful.....

Thank you for continuing to allow GRACE to serve....

Peace


Boz Tchividjian, Esq.
Executive Director, GRACE


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:49 am 
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I hadn't read this until now. This is wonderful that NTM did this. Way to go guys.


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