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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:33 am 
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Arara Azul wrote:
[quote=...Survivors will receive confirmation of their abuse...


I don't even know what to say.[/quote]

Ok, I can think of many, many things to say; I'm trying to restrain myself. At least online...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:49 pm 
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LOL :lol:

That is really ironically funny, in a strange, train wreck sort of way.

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Dear MK,

We are pleased to report to you (and you alone - no else should know of this), that our extensive investigation has concluded that you were, in fact, abused by a person associated with NTM. We aren't taking any action against that person or the others who covered it up, but just thought you would like to know that we were able to affirm you accusations. Please forgive and forget. It was a long time ago. We're a much different organization now, and we assure you that, even though nothing has really changed, it won't ever happen again.

Sincerely.
IHART - for NTM

"Finding a new tribe every 43 days."


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:01 pm 
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JerryB wrote:
So trying to parse this legalese and a**-covering language, what I deduced is:
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We're going to tell as few people as little as we can possibly get away with. And we're not going to make any of it public.

Or did I completely miss the point there?



I am thoroughly disgusted! As if the ruse of protecting victims is the reason for keeping the report confidential!
What a LOAD of CRAP!

NTM , you are so skilled at covering your butts. That is the extent of your skill!
We won't support any NTM missionary. Why would any responsible Christian give any money to this failure of a mission board?

I am do disgusted!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:36 pm 
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There are only a few ways to stop NTM from doing more damage:

1) Give those who donate a wake up, by exposing the truth to them.

2) Finding someone with a bigger stick than NTM's wand, who will hit them hard in the courts and media.

3) Believe Santa or God or the Supreme Being is going to sort it out.

Sorry but I'm losing faith in option 3, my faith is being sorely tested!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:53 pm 
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Aussie wrote:
3) Believe Santa or God or the Supreme Being is going to sort it out.

Sorry but I'm losing faith in option 3, my faith is being sorely tested!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I am so grieved because I find the same thing happening in my own heart, Aussie.

My own faith is being sorely test as well.

I have waited so long to see God move the hearts of those who claim they walk with Him and seek His guidance in their decisions.

I wonder whether God is perhaps not my ally after all. Or if He has decided to just give a "free pass" to child abusers and those who protect them.

Is the urgency to reach tribal people with the Gospel really more important than the heavy burdens of pain carried by the many MKs I have connected with in the past three years?

It is beyond ironic that the very Mission that taught me that God loves me in a personal and life-impacting way is now the same group that causes me to question much of what I thought I believed about God and the part He plays in the daily lives of His people.

This questioning of God's will, how He works, and how He views justice is breaking my heart.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:19 pm 
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Is there one good man in NTM who cares enough to speak out against these atrocities, I mean really speak out, not just a bit of lip service and the same old tired mantras?

Because if not, then gentlemen of NTM, it is time to don the millstones and show us what real faith you have by walking on very deep water.
If your faith enables you to do this, I will forgive you all your trespasses.
If your faith fails you and you sink to the bottom of the ocean, I shall give you credit for trying and leave you in peace.
But if you don't have enough courage to put on the millstone and step out in faith, then you are what many of us perceive you to be, Christian Frauds who have disgraced the name of our beloved Christ and are not fit for the Kingdom of God. And your little evil empire deserves to be exposed for what it really is.

See what you have done, see how our sisters faith lies tattered because of your wickedness and cowardly acts.
Be real men of faith, don the millstones and show us what real men of faith you are, or be prepared for God Himself to pronounce His judgement, for it is He who spoke about being a stumbling block to the faith of innocents!!!!!


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Raz wrote:
Aussie wrote:
3) Believe Santa or God or the Supreme Being is going to sort it out.

Sorry but I'm losing faith in option 3, my faith is being sorely tested!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I am so grieved because I find the same thing happening in my own heart, Aussie.

My own faith is being sorely test as well.

I have waited so long to see God move the hearts of those who claim they walk with Him and seek His guidance in their decisions.

I wonder whether God is perhaps not my ally after all. Or if He has decided to just give a "free pass" to child abusers and those who protect them.

Is the urgency to reach tribal people with the Gospel really more important than the heavy burdens of pain carried by the many MKs I have connected with in the past three years?

It is beyond ironic that the very Mission that taught me that God loves me in a personal and life-impacting way is now the same group that causes me to question much of what I thought I believed about God and the part He plays in the daily lives of His people.

This questioning of God's will, how He works, and how He views justice is breaking my heart.


My Dear Raz,

The reason your heart breaks, weeps and even questions your own faith, is because you actually have a heart. To doubt the very things that make us who we are, at some stage of our lives is to be human. Most of us doubt our abilities as good partners, parents and people of faith at sometime. To not do so, is possibly arrogant or deceitful and certainly less human.

I remember the mantra my parents stated over and over when I expressed concern at the behaviour going on around us, "take your eyes off them and just trust God", it just didn't make a lot of sense, for whether we liked it or not, the behaviour of others was having a large impact on our very existences and futures. It became an excuse for closing a blind eye to what was clearly wrong.

If we are truly honest, for most of us there is a little bit of agnostic that lurks somewhere. I don't think it is anything to be ashamed of, for when one questions why one believes in something so fervently, it answers the question that the reason one believes is because it is what makes sense or is right, not just believing because the fear of not believing is to great.

The millstone is not yours to carry or wear, it belongs to those who's arrogance has made them less human and who's corruption has caused such pain. Let the "great men of faith" wear the millstones and step out into the deep water to prove their faith. For us of "lesser faith", ours is the road of hills and valleys, where we know not what is round the next corner.
But it is a journey that is made much better for we share it with each other, no matter what our level of doubt is.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:45 am 
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How can an investigation be called independent when all the control is in the hands of ntm?
It wasn't like that with GRACE.
And ntm didn't like it.
At all.
So they threw GRACE out.
No, this is not a shock and surprise.
Some of us thought all along that they were just gathering info for their own lawyers
And for their own purposes.
Well???


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Yes, Mosquito Bite, I remember you have been pointing this possibility out for quite some time. It is looking very plausible now.

It would appear to me that only two groups will have access to the full information painstakingly gathered from MKs, their families, school staff, leadership, and even some abusers.

1. Pat Hendrix/IHART
2. The Executive Board of NTM USA

These true groups will retain control over this information. What they choose to show anyone else will be at their discretion.

:(


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:38 am 
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Isn't that despicable?
I'm sure we all think that.


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