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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:41 am 
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I encourage the victims and / or their families to approach GRACE with these concerns. They have shown themselves to be an effective and confidential advocate on behalf of victims of abusive behavior.

If I were in your shoes, and I know that I am not, I would feel a great deal of confidence in the Fanda Eagles, as well. You could write them without revealing your name and I think they could give you some good advice and needed encouragement.

While the victims and their families have a specific right to speak out and demand investiagations of these incidents, those who have been pressured into putting their children into MK schools, those who have supported MK schools, those who have supported NTM missionaries who had their children in those schools. . . all of these people have a right to speak up and demand an accounting. In fact, anyone who has a feeling for justice has a right to speak out; if nothing else, they may spare the victims the pain of having to come forward, something that very few victims will do, and something that those who would cover up these crimes count on.

Gene...I did write to GRACE..no response!..at all!


Broken, I am very sorry to hear that, and I am not in a postion to offer any explanations. I can't imagine why they haven't answered you; from other posts on this forum, they have been returning inquiries.

I commend you for trying, and even that much will make a difference, though clearly not enough of a difference.

Have you been in touch with the Fanda Eagles? Maybe they can help clear things up. In any event, they will be a good source of advice and counsel.

You have a great deal of support on these forums, among caring Christians everywhere and even within the rank and file of NTM, Inc. Right now, things seem to be at a crossroads. Let's stick together, stick with it and press the issues.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:58 am 
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Oct. 15th:

NTM/GRACE Joint Statement:

The NTM USA Executive Board and GRACE are committed to further discussions regarding the precise manner and procedure in which other NTM boarding school abuse claims will be investigated and addressed. A finalized process will be announced no later than November 1, 2010.


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This is VERY hopeful news! I will continue to pray!

Here is an honest question though, to the Monitor Person: Doesn't it seem a little strange that we, the parents of some of Les Emory's victims in Aritao, have not personally received one single word of contact, in any form whatsoever, about NTM's interest in investigating the abuse at that school? What about the other parents who have not been participating on this website? And the survivors who have not been speaking up? I believe some (most?) of them are completely oblivious to this inspiring miracle of vindication and validation that has transpired because of the Eagles' courage and perseverance. If I wasn't participating on this Forum, I wouldn't have a clue. At what point does NTM leadership plan to let survivors from other schools and their families know that they do care about what happened to them, and are "discussing" doing something significant about it?

Just wondering ...


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Raz wrote:
This is VERY hopeful news! I will continue to pray!

Here is an honest question though, to the Monitor Person: Doesn't it seem a little strange that we, the parents of some of Les Emory's victims in Aritao, have not personally received one single word of contact, in any form whatsoever, about NTM's interest in investigating the abuse at that school? What about the other parents who have not been participating on this website? And the survivors who have not been speaking up? I believe some (most?) of them are completely oblivious to this inspiring miracle of vindication and validation that has transpired because of the Eagles' courage and perseverance. If I wasn't participating on this Forum, I wouldn't have a clue. At what point does NTM leadership plan to let survivors from other schools and their families know that they do care about what happened to them, and are "discussing" doing something significant about it?

Just wondering ...

I fully agree. I think someone is delaying a little dip in the Jordan.

NTM already knows, and has known, about other cases of abuse in other schools, cases which make us blush to even read about. They know who the perpetrators are and where they live. They could take the very same steps that have already been taken with the Fanda situation and be forgiven for thinking that people would approve. Yes, NTM is incapable of undertaking an investigation on their own, and they are wise to defer that task to others. But, for some action steps, such as mentioned by Raz, there is no need to wait another day. Why the foot-dragging when NTM already knows? I repeat (needlessly), NTM already knows who these criminals are and is in no doubt about what happened.

NTM had an obituary of one perpetrator's wife in an issue of Family News (the in-house publication for NTM employees), three years after they were dismissed. "They served in the Philippines for ten years," NTM informed the faithful.

I admit that whoever wrote that probably did not know why the Emorys had been dismissed. That is not so much an excuse as to why the obituary got in Family News as it is evidence of how extensive and effective the cover-up was. It is time to act NOW, NTM, Inc. You don't need your hand held on this one.

Not wondering, just saying. . .


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[quote="Raz"]This is VERY hopeful news! I will continue to pray!

Here is an honest question though... At what point does NTM leadership plan to let survivors from other schools and their families know that they do care about what happened to them...

Raz,

I have so much respect for you and your family. You are a very very good person, and are wise, and honest, and caring, and thoughtful. I respect you and admire you greatly, but I am sorry... I have to say this... Are you kidding me? After 17 years of silence? After NOT informing Virginia about Les Emory's crimes upon return to the United States? After literally just letting him walk Scott free? After ignoring virtually every letter and email sent to them from my friend? At what point do they let survivors let them know they care?

They have been letting you know how much they care... For 17 years.

Respectfully,

~Mahal Ko~


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Here's an even more frustrating thing.

Les commits countless, unthinkable crimes against who knows how many innocent children.

NTM protects (makes immune to prosecution) Les Emory in 1993

17 years later, NTM Loyalists protect those that protected Les Emory

Makes me wonder if, when we are judged, that the Lord will see these sins as equal...


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mahalko wrote:
Raz wrote:
This is VERY hopeful news! I will continue to pray!

Here is an honest question though... At what point does NTM leadership plan to let survivors from other schools and their families know that they do care about what happened to them...

Raz,

I have so much respect for you and your family. You are a very very good person, and are wise, and honest, and caring, and thoughtful. I respect you and admire you greatly, but I am sorry... I have to say this... Are you kidding me? After 17 years of silence? After NOT informing Virginia about Les Emory's crimes upon return to the United States? After literally just letting him walk Scott free? After ignoring virtually every letter and email sent to them from my friend? At what point do they let survivors let them know they care?

They have been letting you know how much they care... For 17 years.

Respectfully,

~Mahal Ko~


NTM is throwing insignificant morsels to the starving. To the starving, these look like a feast.

Raz, of course, is not fooled. Her question to the "monitor person" (monitor lizard? In Thailand, that would be very funny!) shows that she knows NTM is dragging their collective feet.

Why, NTM? Why the delay?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:35 pm 
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Gene Long wrote:


NTM is throwing insignificant morsels to the starving. To the starving, these look like a feast.

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling this way. I'm having a hard time being really excited about the hand-delivered letters.


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The hand delivered letters get me very excited for the mere fact that now the area and people surrounding these people know about who they really are. It is protecting future victims. Of course it is too late, everyone knows that. Brooks who lied multiple times about how many victims he had at Fanda is now all of the sudden going to tell the truth about if he destroyed any lives since? He was so good at his deception that best friends at Fanda did not even tell each other what was going on, and we are surprised that there are no allegations about him right now in GA? GRACE wants me to remember that although this EB is the one taking on the responsability they are not the ones who let these men walk freely away before, am I to just throw out that these are the people who told Kari in 2009 that there was nothing they could do, even though they had the documentation in their hands? Is that what I am to do?

Raz brought up a great point parents everywhere should be getting letters, but I think that NTM needs GRACE to draw them up to make sure they are not so vague that parents have no clue what they are about.
[*]Also, NTM, do not just send these letters to the children who were in the dorms at the same time as these abusers, you need to send a letter to anyone who has ever been an mk in your organization. My younger sister and I are very much apart of what happened at Fanda and we never even went there, we are a casualty of the coverup which allowed it to reach us.
[*]And parents, if you ever receive a letter like this, never just question the child that you think is the only one who could be affected, you never know who in your family it has reached and how it got there.


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Denise wrote:
The hand delivered letters get me very excited for the mere fact that now the area and people surrounding these people know about who they really are. It is protecting future victims.

Yes, that is true, Denise.


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