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Comment on NTM implementing recommendations by court?

court? — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:29:52 +0000

@Observer
interesting that you would want to bring this into a court situation. In the situation of Penners, for example – you have looks like 10 separate fanda students making claims about their excessive discipline (2 completely unrelated people making the vomit claim, to my knowledge?) opposite the Penners who have apparently apologized to some people but also now say all of the reports are totally false. grace’s supplement only serves to incriminate them more so i doubt that taking it to court would clear them. it may even be that they don’t recognize how harmful their behavior was, these aren’t the kinds of things that people like to remember about themselves.

as an observer like yourself, i would also hate it if any innocent people’s reputation got ruined. i just haven’t heard anything substantial clearing them, there is dead air except for some threats of nasty defamation suits and anonymous comments calling the whole thing a witch hunt or whatever. interesting that none of the fanda students have made any threats to sue New Tribes or any of the people involved. they seem like they have a much better case in a court of law.

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by Diane Mikitson

Diane Mikitson — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:26:04 +0000

Our copy was signed by Ron and Debbie Abram Steve and Jessica Bastow Ken and Kathy Satorius@Kari

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by curious

curious — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:06:15 +0000

thanks kari

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by Kari

Kari — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:54:58 +0000

@curious Sure, there you go. Original is held at Sanford (where I obtained it) after Ron submitted it to our file back in the late 80's.

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by Tuti Hess

Tuti Hess — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:49:37 +0000

In regards to Ron and Deb Abram I have mixed emotions. Ron and Deb in general were very nice to us and gave us gifts from time to time. Occasionally personally we saw a different side to Ron. We did see how others were treated by Ron and that was painful; we did not agree with several things he said and did. Personally I think the man is sick and needs help. I hope they do not have a big party; I think that would be inappropriate, kind of like building a mosque near the 9/11 memorial site in New York.

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by Tuti Hess

Tuti Hess — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:40:04 +0000

@Feelingleftout Hi feelingleftout person, Thanx for writing on this blog. I believe in regards to F. Stott that the correspondence referred to is the monthly Day of Prayer DOP letter. I'm in the process of trying to communicate with the present Senegal leadership to ask for clarification on this point. I was in Senegal from 97 to 07. I've been disturbed by the blanket silence from present Senegal leadership on what has come to light. I'm in the process of trying to talk directly to people there. I would encourage you to do the same. If you have questions please ask, don't be afraid, God knows all about this mess it needs to be brought out into the light. As a former NTM Senegal co-worker recently said to me, "you leave the dirty laundry laying around for too long it starts to mould and stink".

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by curious

curious — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:35:10 +0000

Kari, please post a scan of the original letter if it exists. Thank you.

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by Feelingleftout

Feelingleftout — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:20:02 +0000

@a. mole So I am a missionary with NTM in Senegal right now. We just recieved the news telling all scheduled activities for the next two months and there is nothing about a party for Ron. Nor have I ever recieved the emails from Frank Stottlemyer that everyone was getting worked up about last week that were supposedly going to everyone involved with NTM Senegal. Either people are getting worked up about rumors, or I am constantly being sent decoy emails and being left out of the loop.

Comment on Excerpt from a letter by Jill Rowe by kristas friend

kristas friend — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:32:02 +0000

I went to school with Krista during this time. She was my friend. 1992. Grade 8.
She confided her story to me at the time.
reading this has me in tears.I have never, will never forget that conversation with Krista. I always kept a special place in my heart for her. knowing what she went through and knowing her courage and love for her god, despite everything, is inspirational. But my heart trembles for her family and the tragic chain reaction her abuse set in motion. The shattered families and lives destroyed by this abuse have, in my opinion, been given no respect or love from NTM, which creates an element of despair I have no words for. Krista I remember you always and Jill, you and your other daughter are in my prayers.

Comment on Ron A – letter to the Budiks by Benjamin Quilliam

Benjamin Quilliam — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:05:21 +0000

@a. mole
No idea whether this rumour is true but…

It’s a tricky situation. Ron is not Evil Incarnate. I’m sure there are many fellow missionaries on the field who know a better side of Ron than many of us would. They may agree that what Ron did was wrong, and they may agree with the GRACE recommendation and NTM action of termination. But they still might want to say farewell. I think it is legitimate to provide a place for people to say their goodbyes and find closure to what may be a very long relationship.

But on the other hand, you don’t want to be seen as minimising or disagreeing with the decision that’s been made. I think if it’s a huge celebration of all Ron has done over the years, that may be inappropriate.

But let’s not jump the gun. This is all rumour still.