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		<title>By: FrmrNTer</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-12381</link>
		<dc:creator>FrmrNTer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first post was today even though I have been reading the website with interest, and with sorrow for the victims of the abuse, for some time.  

I was with NTM during most of the time period in question and of course in the dark about the abuse like so many. I want to express my heartfelt and spirit felt appreciation for all of you who have come forth despite the pain to tell your stories, in order to remove the darkness covering the abuse.

Thank you for being a conduit of information, too.  I hope that either through this site or NTM we will learn of the actions taken in fact by NTM based on the GRACE report.  I&#039;m rather disappointed that information is trickling out through NTM.  A report doesn&#039;t guarrantee accountability, and from the history of this situation, it certainly demands both accountability and transparency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first post was today even though I have been reading the website with interest, and with sorrow for the victims of the abuse, for some time.  </p>
<p>I was with NTM during most of the time period in question and of course in the dark about the abuse like so many. I want to express my heartfelt and spirit felt appreciation for all of you who have come forth despite the pain to tell your stories, in order to remove the darkness covering the abuse.</p>
<p>Thank you for being a conduit of information, too.  I hope that either through this site or NTM we will learn of the actions taken in fact by NTM based on the GRACE report.  I&#8217;m rather disappointed that information is trickling out through NTM.  A report doesn&#8217;t guarrantee accountability, and from the history of this situation, it certainly demands both accountability and transparency.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Quilliam</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-12349</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Quilliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-12340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bridgette&lt;/a&gt; 
I would suggest you ask the admins to start a forum in the discussion boards for the WEC school. We will try to publicise it. If there is a discussion started already, other visitors to the site might realise theirs was not an isolated case and can contribute evidence.

I would suggest probably not including names, but maybe include general information that helps other potential victims from the WEC school to identify what you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-12340" rel="nofollow">@Bridgette</a><br />
I would suggest you ask the admins to start a forum in the discussion boards for the WEC school. We will try to publicise it. If there is a discussion started already, other visitors to the site might realise theirs was not an isolated case and can contribute evidence.</p>
<p>I would suggest probably not including names, but maybe include general information that helps other potential victims from the WEC school to identify what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridgette</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-12340</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridgette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 04:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also a NTM MK I attended a WEC school in West Africa.  After reading the Grace report I am horrified at the horrible things that were done to children at the Fanda school.  I believe there was abuse going on at the WEC school I attended as well, if anyone has information please reply.  I am not sure I should say the name in the event that I would be accused of slander.  

To all the survivors of the Fanda scandal I hold you in my thoughts and prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also a NTM MK I attended a WEC school in West Africa.  After reading the Grace report I am horrified at the horrible things that were done to children at the Fanda school.  I believe there was abuse going on at the WEC school I attended as well, if anyone has information please reply.  I am not sure I should say the name in the event that I would be accused of slander.  </p>
<p>To all the survivors of the Fanda scandal I hold you in my thoughts and prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McKenney</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11964</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McKenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gene Long,

Not sure if you remember me and Donna.  Anyway, we spent 3 years in Senegal (1980-1983).  Our 2 boys lived in Fanda at the MK School.  While we never personally knew of or experienced sexual abuse during our time there, we are vitally interested in all that&#039;s been said, documented, and investigated.  

There are some things that at the time were pretty much a mystery to us while serving in Senegal, especially attitudes and tendencies, but now they have become crystal clear in the light of all the information on this site, the forums, etc.  Looking back, the overall general attitude/relationship between leadership and missionaries left much to be desired.  In hindsight it is obvious that underneath even that chasm between leadership and missionaries, there apparently was something far more sinister festering, and has now come to light.  

I just read the Final Report by Grace.  Donna and I know personally many of those mentioned in that report, and our hearts are broken.  What a shame that these things happen, yet even more tragic that they are ignored or covered up for &quot;the sake of the ministry.&quot;  

I do want to thank all of you who have been brave enough to share your tragic experiences and thank you for your courage.  We are grateful that the Lord has evidently led you in this work.  The last days truly are upon us, and times are definitely waxing worse and worse.  I know the Lord&#039;s heart must be in much pain, yet He also is able to bring comfort and heal all the hearts that have been wounded.  Perhaps these very painful stories and testimonies that have been shared will help to protect future MKs and bring a certain amount of awareness to the hearts of missionaries throughout the world.  

There have been countless numbers of parents who were flat out deceived; they had trusted the most precious thing they had, their children, to others, never imagining that the whole subject of child/sexual abuse could be an issue in the setting of a school for MKs that was run by fellow believers/missionaries.  It was assumed that these dorm parents would love and protect the MKs entrusted to their care; how horrible to find out that just the opposite occurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gene Long,</p>
<p>Not sure if you remember me and Donna.  Anyway, we spent 3 years in Senegal (1980-1983).  Our 2 boys lived in Fanda at the MK School.  While we never personally knew of or experienced sexual abuse during our time there, we are vitally interested in all that&#8217;s been said, documented, and investigated.  </p>
<p>There are some things that at the time were pretty much a mystery to us while serving in Senegal, especially attitudes and tendencies, but now they have become crystal clear in the light of all the information on this site, the forums, etc.  Looking back, the overall general attitude/relationship between leadership and missionaries left much to be desired.  In hindsight it is obvious that underneath even that chasm between leadership and missionaries, there apparently was something far more sinister festering, and has now come to light.  </p>
<p>I just read the Final Report by Grace.  Donna and I know personally many of those mentioned in that report, and our hearts are broken.  What a shame that these things happen, yet even more tragic that they are ignored or covered up for &#8220;the sake of the ministry.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I do want to thank all of you who have been brave enough to share your tragic experiences and thank you for your courage.  We are grateful that the Lord has evidently led you in this work.  The last days truly are upon us, and times are definitely waxing worse and worse.  I know the Lord&#8217;s heart must be in much pain, yet He also is able to bring comfort and heal all the hearts that have been wounded.  Perhaps these very painful stories and testimonies that have been shared will help to protect future MKs and bring a certain amount of awareness to the hearts of missionaries throughout the world.  </p>
<p>There have been countless numbers of parents who were flat out deceived; they had trusted the most precious thing they had, their children, to others, never imagining that the whole subject of child/sexual abuse could be an issue in the setting of a school for MKs that was run by fellow believers/missionaries.  It was assumed that these dorm parents would love and protect the MKs entrusted to their care; how horrible to find out that just the opposite occurred.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Long</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11930</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, guess what my real name is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, guess what my real name is!</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Long</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11929</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-11582&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@shadowspring&lt;/a&gt; 
Dave Martin doesn&#039;t tell us what he means when he says he is &quot;successful.&quot;  That is a regrettable omission, since it leaves open the very real possibility that he is &quot;successful&quot; in ways that are not pleasing to the Lord.  Just saying.

I admire the people who started this website, and all those who have contributed to it.  I guess I don&#039;t share Dave Martin&#039;s opinion that they are losers.  It strikes me that they are brave, honest and exceptionally kind people.  The word &quot;successful&quot; comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-11582" rel="nofollow">@shadowspring</a><br />
Dave Martin doesn&#8217;t tell us what he means when he says he is &#8220;successful.&#8221;  That is a regrettable omission, since it leaves open the very real possibility that he is &#8220;successful&#8221; in ways that are not pleasing to the Lord.  Just saying.</p>
<p>I admire the people who started this website, and all those who have contributed to it.  I guess I don&#8217;t share Dave Martin&#8217;s opinion that they are losers.  It strikes me that they are brave, honest and exceptionally kind people.  The word &#8220;successful&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: shadowspring</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11582</link>
		<dc:creator>shadowspring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Martin is himself abusive- telling victims to just &quot;get over it&quot;, implying that the wounds they have and the pain they feel are there  because they are too weak, and if they were better people they would just leave the past behind and be successful *like him*. 

Well, if God is going to take care of everything, then Dave better watch his back, because he has spoken arrogantly to God&#039;s precious flock, the ones abandoned by the pastors and shoved around by fat sheep like him.  Ezekiel 34 

Even the final jibe, implying that those who use pseudonyms are inferior to Dave Martin- his real name!- just highlights his arrogance and willful ignorance.  Being a victim of abuse is shameful exactly because people like him shame victims!  

I use a pseudonym to protect my husband&#039;s anonymity.  My husband is not weak, but wounded.  He shows his strength by being willing to stop pretending it was no big deal and get the help he needs!  I do not believe Dave&#039;s protests that he was abused and it was no big deal.  If that were true, he would show compassion here, not arrogance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Martin is himself abusive- telling victims to just &#8220;get over it&#8221;, implying that the wounds they have and the pain they feel are there  because they are too weak, and if they were better people they would just leave the past behind and be successful *like him*. </p>
<p>Well, if God is going to take care of everything, then Dave better watch his back, because he has spoken arrogantly to God&#8217;s precious flock, the ones abandoned by the pastors and shoved around by fat sheep like him.  Ezekiel 34 </p>
<p>Even the final jibe, implying that those who use pseudonyms are inferior to Dave Martin- his real name!- just highlights his arrogance and willful ignorance.  Being a victim of abuse is shameful exactly because people like him shame victims!  </p>
<p>I use a pseudonym to protect my husband&#8217;s anonymity.  My husband is not weak, but wounded.  He shows his strength by being willing to stop pretending it was no big deal and get the help he needs!  I do not believe Dave&#8217;s protests that he was abused and it was no big deal.  If that were true, he would show compassion here, not arrogance.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Martin</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11536</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way Dave martin is my real name.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Martin</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11535</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Please do not tell me that I did not get over it. I am very successful in my life. I know many other folks that were abused that do not hang on to the past. The truth should be told but will that help you guys cope? I will not enter this site anymore. U guys have fun.

I do not hold it against my parents.  I am proud of their contributions and sacrifice many missionaries have no clue of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Please do not tell me that I did not get over it. I am very successful in my life. I know many other folks that were abused that do not hang on to the past. The truth should be told but will that help you guys cope? I will not enter this site anymore. U guys have fun.</p>
<p>I do not hold it against my parents.  I am proud of their contributions and sacrifice many missionaries have no clue of.</p>
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		<title>By: Shary Hauber</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11501</link>
		<dc:creator>Shary Hauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David in the guestbook section you stated you DID hold it against your parents, now here you are saying get over it. What do you mean? You haven&#039;t gotten over it. Why because it is not something you get over. You may think everything is OK but that is because you are not facing reality. We form thought patterns, emotions, evaluations of people when we are children. 

I keep finding out the lies I believe about life, others, and myself even now. I am not to blame for the things that happened to me. I am not an evil person,yes I need Christ&#039;s forgiveness for my sins, but the things I did as a child will not automatically condemn me to hell or you. Our childhood emotions will always be with us if we acknowledge them or not. I am a happy person because I learned to know the lies and start telling myself the truth. 

I am not from Fanda but another missionary boarding school in another mission. But don&#039;t you condemn the Fanda MKs for asking for the truth to be told. They are not evil or wishing evil on anyone. They are seeking to stop child abuse because some of the abusers are still out there abusing children. They are not a bunch of liberal democrats. They are strong courageous people who were not afraid to take on a whole mission. Like someone else said if you don&#039;t want to help or be helped just keep quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David in the guestbook section you stated you DID hold it against your parents, now here you are saying get over it. What do you mean? You haven&#8217;t gotten over it. Why because it is not something you get over. You may think everything is OK but that is because you are not facing reality. We form thought patterns, emotions, evaluations of people when we are children. </p>
<p>I keep finding out the lies I believe about life, others, and myself even now. I am not to blame for the things that happened to me. I am not an evil person,yes I need Christ&#8217;s forgiveness for my sins, but the things I did as a child will not automatically condemn me to hell or you. Our childhood emotions will always be with us if we acknowledge them or not. I am a happy person because I learned to know the lies and start telling myself the truth. </p>
<p>I am not from Fanda but another missionary boarding school in another mission. But don&#8217;t you condemn the Fanda MKs for asking for the truth to be told. They are not evil or wishing evil on anyone. They are seeking to stop child abuse because some of the abusers are still out there abusing children. They are not a bunch of liberal democrats. They are strong courageous people who were not afraid to take on a whole mission. Like someone else said if you don&#8217;t want to help or be helped just keep quiet.</p>
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