Comments on: Letter from Mik parents http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/ Our Voice Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:29:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Amy http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-12399 Amy Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:35:52 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-12399 This entry was so moving. I'm only just now discovering what happened at Fanda. I'm an MK, grew up in East Brazil at Vianopolis- a boarding school, as well. I'm heartbroken, though not shocked- and that's because it happened at our school too. Years of abuse went on and it was covered up, hushed up, put away, and never, EVER dealt with!! I'm glad the Fanda "kids" have had the courage to stand up and say, "Enough!" This post resonates with me. I can hear my parents voice in it...it makes me so sad!! This entry was so moving. I’m only just now discovering what happened at Fanda. I’m an MK, grew up in East Brazil at Vianopolis- a boarding school, as well. I’m heartbroken, though not shocked- and that’s because it happened at our school too. Years of abuse went on and it was covered up, hushed up, put away, and never, EVER dealt with!! I’m glad the Fanda “kids” have had the courage to stand up and say, “Enough!”

This post resonates with me. I can hear my parents voice in it…it makes me so sad!!

]]> By: Tuti Hess http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-12388 Tuti Hess Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:48:47 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-12388 Dear Diane, Thank you for your courage through all of this. I can relate to a lot of what you are saying. I feel shame because I had bought into this thing of the work is most important so I neglected my children and saw them as a hindrance. I so love my kids now and know that thinking was wrong. I thank God for a couple who confronted us and made us see we had to put a priority on our kids. Thank God for His rebuke and correction on our lives when we need it. God saved my kids and my marriage.Keep speaking out and fighting for what is right. Well done sister. Dear Diane, Thank you for your courage through all of this. I can relate to a lot of what you are saying. I feel shame because I had bought into this thing of the work is most important so I neglected my children and saw them as a hindrance. I so love my kids now and know that thinking was wrong. I thank God for a couple who confronted us and made us see we had to put a priority on our kids. Thank God for His rebuke and correction on our lives when we need it. God saved my kids and my marriage.Keep speaking out and fighting for what is right. Well done sister.

]]> By: shadowspring http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-12380 shadowspring Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:03:03 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-12380 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-2306"> <strong><a href="#comment-2306" rel="nofollow">R.C.</a> :</strong> Sad though your story may be, I think you have misdiagnosed the cause. Hundreds of children are raised overseas every year and they turn out just fine. Thousands if not more children are raised in the USA who are raped and molested. Location has little to do with, the problem here were the people who abused the children and the people who turned a blind eye. PEOPLE are responsible for their actions, we cannot blame things like LOCATION. I was an MK who lived overseas and all of my friends who lived in dorms were just fine. Your problem was that dorm parents were not chosen carefully enough or monitored enough, and no measures were taken to prevent abuse from happening. I’m very sorry for what happened to your daughter and I am in no way trying to minimize what happened to her, but until you realize the cause pf the problem, you will never be able to fix it. </blockquote> I seriously doubt that every one from your dorm is "just fine". Boarding school for young children is a horrendous idea. The abandonment alone will deeply affect every single child sent off the a boarding school- the younger they were rejected i.e. sent away, the more severe the damage to that person's psyche. So while you may claim that you and all your friends are "just fine" I say wait for life to trigger your own buried traumas. I believe you will then find out that "just fine" was nothing more than "in denial".

R.C. :
Sad though your story may be, I think you have misdiagnosed the cause. Hundreds of children are raised overseas every year and they turn out just fine. Thousands if not more children are raised in the USA who are raped and molested. Location has little to do with, the problem here were the people who abused the children and the people who turned a blind eye. PEOPLE are responsible for their actions, we cannot blame things like LOCATION. I was an MK who lived overseas and all of my friends who lived in dorms were just fine. Your problem was that dorm parents were not chosen carefully enough or monitored enough, and no measures were taken to prevent abuse from happening. I’m very sorry for what happened to your daughter and I am in no way trying to minimize what happened to her, but until you realize the cause pf the problem, you will never be able to fix it.

I seriously doubt that every one from your dorm is “just fine”. Boarding school for young children is a horrendous idea. The abandonment alone will deeply affect every single child sent off the a boarding school- the younger they were rejected i.e. sent away, the more severe the damage to that person’s psyche. So while you may claim that you and all your friends are “just fine” I say wait for life to trigger your own buried traumas. I believe you will then find out that “just fine” was nothing more than “in denial”.

]]> By: Diane Mikitson http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-2357 Diane Mikitson Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:00:46 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-2357 By no means did we mean to imply that Africa was the problem, nor that Location is the problem. We loved Senegal. Dorm life is not God's best plan for raising children. Of this we are certain. Your comments about "cause of the problem" and fixing it are naive. "All my friends who lived in dorms were just fine" is naive. I doubt that you are receptive to hearing the truth of the pain and turmoil most adults who lived in dorms as children will attest to. By no means did we mean to imply that Africa was the problem, nor that Location is the problem. We loved Senegal. Dorm life is not God’s best plan for raising children. Of this we are certain.
Your comments about “cause of the problem” and fixing it are naive. “All my friends who lived in dorms were just fine” is naive.
I doubt that you are receptive to hearing the truth of the pain and turmoil most adults who lived in dorms as children will attest to.

]]> By: Deb A http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-2349 Deb A Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:34:10 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-2349 As a student from a NTM boarding school there was bad physical abuse from a dorm mom that did not want to be at the school. It was not a good experience. Then we went to Senegal where my girls received and abservered the physical abuse that the above classmates had. We were told that we were not to visit our daughter in the dorm because it only made things worse and they didn't want parents there. Our daughter hated the dorm and the things going on. As a student from a NTM boarding school there was bad physical abuse from a dorm mom that did not want to be at the school. It was not a good experience. Then we went to Senegal where my girls received and abservered the physical abuse that the above classmates had. We were told that we were not to visit our daughter in the dorm because it only made things worse and they didn’t want parents there. Our daughter hated the dorm and the things going on.

]]> By: R.C. http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-2306 R.C. Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:00:15 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-2306 Sad though your story may be, I think you have misdiagnosed the cause. Hundreds of children are raised overseas every year and they turn out just fine. Thousands if not more children are raised in the USA who are raped and molested. Location has little to do with, the problem here were the people who abused the children and the people who turned a blind eye. PEOPLE are responsible for their actions, we cannot blame things like LOCATION. I was an MK who lived overseas and all of my friends who lived in dorms were just fine. Your problem was that dorm parents were not chosen carefully enough or monitored enough, and no measures were taken to prevent abuse from happening. I'm very sorry for what happened to your daughter and I am in no way trying to minimize what happened to her, but until you realize the cause pf the problem, you will never be able to fix it. Sad though your story may be, I think you have misdiagnosed the cause. Hundreds of children are raised overseas every year and they turn out just fine. Thousands if not more children are raised in the USA who are raped and molested. Location has little to do with, the problem here were the people who abused the children and the people who turned a blind eye. PEOPLE are responsible for their actions, we cannot blame things like LOCATION. I was an MK who lived overseas and all of my friends who lived in dorms were just fine. Your problem was that dorm parents were not chosen carefully enough or monitored enough, and no measures were taken to prevent abuse from happening. I’m very sorry for what happened to your daughter and I am in no way trying to minimize what happened to her, but until you realize the cause pf the problem, you will never be able to fix it.

]]> By: Elijah III http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-914 Elijah III Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:36:40 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-914 John and Diane, your story is moving, yet prophetic... You said: some of us would be shocked…and feel the horror…and sadness as we read the stories…and that we might even think about it during the middle of the night… --Here it is 3 am… Yes, and more… Some of us have wept over the GREAT SIN that has been committed in the camp and buried in the tent… May I leave a few prophetic words with you that have come to mind to encourage you these wee hours of this new day: God is not mocked…seeds of deceit, lust, immorality, pride, selfishness, and cover up…that have been sown in the darkness, are called forth to come under the search beacon of the Son of Light, for the time has come for judgment to begin in the House of God—in the Name of Jesus! Be encouraged! It will come to pass! John and Diane, your story is moving, yet prophetic… You said: some of us would be shocked…and feel the horror…and sadness as we read the stories…and that we might even think about it during the middle of the night… –Here it is 3 am… Yes, and more… Some of us have wept over the GREAT SIN that has been committed in the camp and buried in the tent…
May I leave a few prophetic words with you that have come to mind to encourage you these wee hours of this new day: God is not mocked…seeds of deceit, lust, immorality, pride, selfishness, and cover up…that have been sown in the darkness, are called forth to come under the search beacon of the Son of Light, for the time has come for judgment to begin in the House of God—in the Name of Jesus! Be encouraged! It will come to pass!

]]> By: Bill Lapworth http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-861 Bill Lapworth Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:23:52 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-861 I am very sad too read the story of the familly Mik and can imagine exactly how humiliated and abusde they must have felt. I was approximatly 8 years old when I went to Fanda in the late 70's and the description of the leadership is very typical of how I experienced Fanda and NTM. However I would like too testify that at Fanda I experienced the love of Jesus and the fatherly love from my dorm father Hammy as never before or after in my life. If I think of the way he showed me love and affection I can only be very thankful for ever meeting and having someone like him look after me and show me a fatherly love I never experienced from my own father. My own father never gave me a hug or encouragement as Hammy did. I'm not telling this to put my own Dad down but too explain that like me you can also be very lucky too have had a great dorm Dad whom I love and remember very dearly. Your daughters got sadly the wrong dorm Dad I'm very sory! but glad you had the courage too tell the world! and keep looking up! I am very sad too read the story of the familly Mik and can imagine exactly how humiliated and abusde they must have felt. I was approximatly 8 years old when I went to Fanda in the late 70′s and the description of the leadership is very typical of how I experienced Fanda and NTM. However I would like too testify that at Fanda I experienced the love of Jesus and the fatherly love from my dorm father Hammy as never before or after in my life. If I think of the way he showed me love and affection I can only be very thankful for ever meeting and having someone like him look after me and show me a fatherly love I never experienced from my own father. My own father never gave me a hug or encouragement as Hammy did. I’m not telling this to put my own Dad down but too explain that like me you can also be very lucky too have had a great dorm Dad whom I love and remember very dearly. Your daughters got sadly the wrong dorm Dad I’m very sory! but glad you had the courage too tell the world! and keep looking up!

]]> By: Brasilian1 http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-832 Brasilian1 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:52:45 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-832 Shary Hauber, I don't know you and you don't know me but I had to laugh when I saw that you wrote that New Tribes Mission is close to becoming a cult. Tell you why as you read what I am going to write. I read this blog every day for a long time now and have waited to write something and now is the time. I just want to say that I have been following this blog from my country and have waited to see if the Mission of New Tribes is going to do anything about this whole mess. Not everyone in this country knows how to speak the American language, but a lot of people know how to read the American language. Really, I am very upset. I have known people from this misson here in Brasil and have seen a lot of wrong being done through the years. All a person needs is just a little bit of decernment and they would know that some thing is wrong. I know a family and several families of this particular family have been mistreated here in this country by the MNTB. One family were missionaries in the country of Senegal, the other family serving our Lord in the northern part of Brasil and another in the southern part of Brasil. If anyone would just look into what happened to all of these familys it would be enough to make your blood boil...Really!!!! But because they have the knowledge that God is in control they just got out quietly. Let me ask.... did the mission here in this country or in the USA ever ask these families what really happened? Did any of the leaders of these two countries ever go after what really happened in every situation? I don't think so!!!! And let me say this that in some cases if some of these families really wanted to...... people in the mission in this country could be taken to the law. It is very serious. I challenge people to really look into it. I don't know much about american laws but I know in my country if it got into the hands of those in authority...very sad. And the more time goes on I get more and more angry about this whole situation with the missions. What made me laugh is that there are those in this mission, MNTB, that I know have said that the missionaries that live in southern Brasil are a cult. Isn't that ironic? Really!!!! There is a lot I could say here and maybe as time goes by I will....isn't that so interesting how our God makes things get truned around. That is why I said I had to laugh. It really isn't funny but sometimes a person has to laugh...what else can you do? So.....when I saw the blog I was not surprised at all. Just fits with the way the mission does things in Brasil and must be the way it is done in the US of A. I now understand more then ever that what I have felt about the wrong that was done with the families I just wrote about that I wasn't wrong...really. Only a dummi would not understand what happened with all that has been on this blog. I know MNTB for a long time and it doesn't take too much brains to figure out what has happened when a person reads the blog. Girls, all I can say is do not give up...God is just and sin will be uncovered. DONT GIVE UP!!! Shary Hauber, I don’t know you and you don’t know me but I had to laugh when I saw that you wrote that New Tribes Mission is close to becoming a cult. Tell you why as you read what I am going to write.

I read this blog every day for a long time now and have waited to write something and now is the time. I just want to say that I have been following this blog from my country and have waited to see if the Mission of New Tribes is going to do anything about this whole mess. Not everyone in this country knows how to speak the American language, but a lot of people know how to read the American language.

Really, I am very upset. I have known people from this misson here in Brasil and have seen a lot of wrong being done through the years. All a person needs is just a little bit of decernment and they would know that some thing is wrong.

I know a family and several families of this particular family have been mistreated here in this country by the MNTB. One family were missionaries in the country of Senegal, the other family serving our Lord in the northern part of Brasil and another in the southern part of Brasil. If anyone would just look into what happened to all of these familys it would be enough to make your blood boil…Really!!!!

But because they have the knowledge that God is in control they just got out quietly. Let me ask…. did the mission here in this country or in the USA ever ask these families what really happened? Did any of the leaders of these two countries ever go after what really happened in every situation? I don’t think so!!!! And let me say this that in some cases if some of these families really wanted to…… people in the mission in this country could be taken to the law. It is very serious. I challenge people to really look into it. I don’t know much about american laws but I know in my country if it got into the hands of those in authority…very sad. And the more time goes on I get more and more angry about this whole situation with the missions.

What made me laugh is that there are those in this mission, MNTB, that I know have said that the missionaries that live in southern Brasil are a cult. Isn’t that ironic? Really!!!! There is a lot I could say here and maybe as time goes by I will….isn’t that so interesting how our God makes things get truned around. That is why I said I had to laugh. It really isn’t funny but sometimes a person has to laugh…what else can you do?

So…..when I saw the blog I was not surprised at all. Just fits with the way the mission does things in Brasil and must be the way it is done in the US of A. I now understand more then ever that what I have felt about the wrong that was done with the families I just wrote about that I wasn’t wrong…really. Only a dummi would not understand what happened with all that has been on this blog. I know MNTB for a long time and it doesn’t take too much brains to figure out what has happened when a person reads the blog. Girls, all I can say is do not give up…God is just and sin will be uncovered. DONT GIVE UP!!!

]]> By: Shary Hauber http://fandaeagles.com/2009/08/letter-from-mik-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-773 Shary Hauber Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:13:38 +0000 http://fandaeagles.com/?p=541#comment-773 Oh Kevin I am so sorry about your wife passing away with the added hurt from the NTM letter. I am glad you are not disappointed in God. He does always love and care about us. Yes there are leaders of churches and missions who do not follow Christ but their own egos. Remember Jim Jones and the hundreds of people who drank poison KoolAid and died, he started out as a pastor in an evangelical church. NTM is coming close to becoming a cult. Oh Kevin I am so sorry about your wife passing away with the added hurt from the NTM letter. I am glad you are not disappointed in God. He does always love and care about us. Yes there are leaders of churches and missions who do not follow Christ but their own egos. Remember Jim Jones and the hundreds of people who drank poison KoolAid and died, he started out as a pastor in an evangelical church. NTM is coming close to becoming a cult.

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