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		<title>By: Elijah III</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-9128</link>
		<dc:creator>Elijah III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anonymous’  comments  23 &amp; 26

The Facts concerning this perpetrator with verifiable proof are:

1.   After his membership ended with NTM-USA and was reported to the US authorities in 2003 he continued with the foreign NTM branch as a member of that field in good standing for at least six years! 

2.   His membership was officially terminated with that field on September 14th 2009.

I wonder what the leadership from that field could possibly say to Miriam and the Fanda Eagles to justify why this man’s membership was not terminated immediately when he was reported to the US officials and dismissed from NTM International in ‘03.

So we ask the leadership of NTM--Brazil:

1.     Why wasn’t this pedophile’s membership terminated from the field at the time his membership was ended with NTM—USA and He was reported to the US officials!!!? 

2.     Did it take six years for communication to get from the US to the field leadership concerning this predator!!!? 

3.     Why did it take so long to terminate this person’s membership with NTM--Brazil since the facts had been established in 2003--What more proof was needed!!!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anonymous’  comments  23 &amp; 26</p>
<p>The Facts concerning this perpetrator with verifiable proof are:</p>
<p>1.   After his membership ended with NTM-USA and was reported to the US authorities in 2003 he continued with the foreign NTM branch as a member of that field in good standing for at least six years! </p>
<p>2.   His membership was officially terminated with that field on September 14th 2009.</p>
<p>I wonder what the leadership from that field could possibly say to Miriam and the Fanda Eagles to justify why this man’s membership was not terminated immediately when he was reported to the US officials and dismissed from NTM International in ‘03.</p>
<p>So we ask the leadership of NTM&#8211;Brazil:</p>
<p>1.     Why wasn’t this pedophile’s membership terminated from the field at the time his membership was ended with NTM—USA and He was reported to the US officials!!!? </p>
<p>2.     Did it take six years for communication to get from the US to the field leadership concerning this predator!!!? </p>
<p>3.     Why did it take so long to terminate this person’s membership with NTM&#8211;Brazil since the facts had been established in 2003&#8211;What more proof was needed!!!?</p>
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		<title>By: Elijah III</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Elijah III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miriam, as I read your story I became outraged and indignant to the point of writing a letter to the people who needed to hear.  I would rather not expose the content of that letter for the whole world to see..., but since it pertained to your specific case I would be glad to send you excerpts of that letter.  Just send a request to elijahthree@gmail.com .  I am praying for all of the Fanda Eagles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miriam, as I read your story I became outraged and indignant to the point of writing a letter to the people who needed to hear.  I would rather not expose the content of that letter for the whole world to see&#8230;, but since it pertained to your specific case I would be glad to send you excerpts of that letter.  Just send a request to <a href="mailto:elijahthree@gmail.com">elijahthree@gmail.com</a> .  I am praying for all of the Fanda Eagles.</p>
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		<title>By: miriam c.</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>miriam c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bonnie, thank you for following up on that! i ask myself how can a missionary tell the gospel living a double life, how can a mission allow a man they know has done something wrong to more than one child (they know it wasn&#039;t just me and just in FANDA) and yet just turn the other way.  &quot;he&#039;s saving souls and making us look good, let&#039;s just let it be, it all happened years ago anyway&quot; i must admit it, NTM has very &quot;intersting&quot; VALUES as a mission. Doing God&#039;s work is not just saving souls.....remember that....this man might have saved someone....but he destroyed a child&#039;s innocence and childhood....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bonnie, thank you for following up on that! i ask myself how can a missionary tell the gospel living a double life, how can a mission allow a man they know has done something wrong to more than one child (they know it wasn&#8217;t just me and just in FANDA) and yet just turn the other way.  &#8220;he&#8217;s saving souls and making us look good, let&#8217;s just let it be, it all happened years ago anyway&#8221; i must admit it, NTM has very &#8220;intersting&#8221; VALUES as a mission. Doing God&#8217;s work is not just saving souls&#8230;..remember that&#8230;.this man might have saved someone&#8230;.but he destroyed a child&#8217;s innocence and childhood&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I asked someone at NTM about this particular abuser, the answer was at first very shady... &quot;No, he&#039;s not with NTM.&quot;  When I pushed the issue a little, I found out that he is still with NTM, but not in NTM-USA&#039;s &quot;jurisdiction&quot;.  I asked if they had called the NTM jurisdiction that he is with, and they said yes.  I asked if he is still with NTM.  Again.  YES.  
NTM-USA is very good at pointing to the next guy and saying, &quot;it&#039;s his responsibility, not ours.&quot;  
But let me say this.  When this man committed the crimes he did against Miriam C., he was with NTM-USA.  
NTM - if you drop this ball, I fear that the consequences of that will be severe.  Do the right thing!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I asked someone at NTM about this particular abuser, the answer was at first very shady&#8230; &#8220;No, he&#8217;s not with NTM.&#8221;  When I pushed the issue a little, I found out that he is still with NTM, but not in NTM-USA&#8217;s &#8220;jurisdiction&#8221;.  I asked if they had called the NTM jurisdiction that he is with, and they said yes.  I asked if he is still with NTM.  Again.  YES.<br />
NTM-USA is very good at pointing to the next guy and saying, &#8220;it&#8217;s his responsibility, not ours.&#8221;<br />
But let me say this.  When this man committed the crimes he did against Miriam C., he was with NTM-USA.<br />
NTM &#8211; if you drop this ball, I fear that the consequences of that will be severe.  Do the right thing!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shary Hauber</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Shary Hauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shannon I am glad you have found peace in your situation. But there is every thing right in holding the guilty responsible for their sin. We all know God will take care of them in the end in which is comfort. Our responsibility now is to expose the offenders so other children will not be harmed. 

Research shows that pedophiles do not stop. We know that God can change them but saying they are sorry is not enough, being sorry for five years is not enough while still working around children. A truly repentant offender never allows himself to be with children alone. He removes himself from all position of leadership. He asks someone to keep him accountable at all times. If he goes to the restroom at church someone goes with him. He does all of this for life because he is truly repentant and knows his weakness.

Bonnie and Kari I want to encourage you and all the other who went to Fanda to be bold in your task of holding the offenders and those who in leadership refused to deal with the sin. It is you who are looking out for the good of NTM because God doesn&#039;t accept sin in the camp.  May God bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon I am glad you have found peace in your situation. But there is every thing right in holding the guilty responsible for their sin. We all know God will take care of them in the end in which is comfort. Our responsibility now is to expose the offenders so other children will not be harmed. </p>
<p>Research shows that pedophiles do not stop. We know that God can change them but saying they are sorry is not enough, being sorry for five years is not enough while still working around children. A truly repentant offender never allows himself to be with children alone. He removes himself from all position of leadership. He asks someone to keep him accountable at all times. If he goes to the restroom at church someone goes with him. He does all of this for life because he is truly repentant and knows his weakness.</p>
<p>Bonnie and Kari I want to encourage you and all the other who went to Fanda to be bold in your task of holding the offenders and those who in leadership refused to deal with the sin. It is you who are looking out for the good of NTM because God doesn&#8217;t accept sin in the camp.  May God bless you.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading all the posts for a while now and have been praying fervently about what to share.  My heart goes out to all of you who were hurt.  I am apalled as I read these things.  I pray for you all for miraculous healing of your broken hearts.  I went through some difficulties with a different dorm dad in 5th to 7th grade that have caused damage and hurt, so I relate to you all though my experiences were not as horrific as you all had to endure.  I hope that Ntm will do the right thing and pursue this despite that it has been so long.  In the mean time I do know from experience that God is able to heal and restore, but I do know that it doesn&#039;t make everything &quot;all better&quot; again.  There are lasting effects.   I am thankful for His grace each day and pray that you all feel His great love each day as you try to pick up these pieces.  I am proud of you all for taking a stand and I share these verses with you as an encouragement to remember that even if on this earth there is no justice, there will be one day, but that there is joy to be found in the waiting (along with the pain):
Psalms 94:16-23 Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against evildoers?  Unless the Lord had given me help I would soon have dwelt in the silence of death.  when I said, &quot; My foot is slipping,&quot; your love, o Lord, supported me.  When anxiety was great within me, your consolation brought joy to my soul.  Can a corrupt throne be allied with you- one that brings on misery by its decrees?  They band together against the righteous and condemn the innocent to death But  the Lord has become my fortress and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.  HE WILL REPAY THEM FOR THEIR SINS AND DESTROY THEM FOR THEIR WICKEDNESS/ THE LORD OUR GOD WILL DESTROY THEM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading all the posts for a while now and have been praying fervently about what to share.  My heart goes out to all of you who were hurt.  I am apalled as I read these things.  I pray for you all for miraculous healing of your broken hearts.  I went through some difficulties with a different dorm dad in 5th to 7th grade that have caused damage and hurt, so I relate to you all though my experiences were not as horrific as you all had to endure.  I hope that Ntm will do the right thing and pursue this despite that it has been so long.  In the mean time I do know from experience that God is able to heal and restore, but I do know that it doesn&#8217;t make everything &#8220;all better&#8221; again.  There are lasting effects.   I am thankful for His grace each day and pray that you all feel His great love each day as you try to pick up these pieces.  I am proud of you all for taking a stand and I share these verses with you as an encouragement to remember that even if on this earth there is no justice, there will be one day, but that there is joy to be found in the waiting (along with the pain):<br />
Psalms 94:16-23 Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against evildoers?  Unless the Lord had given me help I would soon have dwelt in the silence of death.  when I said, &#8221; My foot is slipping,&#8221; your love, o Lord, supported me.  When anxiety was great within me, your consolation brought joy to my soul.  Can a corrupt throne be allied with you- one that brings on misery by its decrees?  They band together against the righteous and condemn the innocent to death But  the Lord has become my fortress and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.  HE WILL REPAY THEM FOR THEIR SINS AND DESTROY THEM FOR THEIR WICKEDNESS/ THE LORD OUR GOD WILL DESTROY THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Shary Hauber</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Shary Hauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to thank you for sharing your story Mariam. I know it is not easy. I believe your story. My prayers are with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to thank you for sharing your story Mariam. I know it is not easy. I believe your story. My prayers are with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Stirling</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Stirling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. Bachhie:  Please consider the perspective and feelings of the abused child before you consider what makes sense only to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. Bachhie:  Please consider the perspective and feelings of the abused child before you consider what makes sense only to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: M.Bacchie</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>M.Bacchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was not trying to make anybody feel obligated--Just thinking that if the name was out in public, maybe NTM could be confronted with it, asking them how in the world can this perp still be with NTM....

Hope this makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not trying to make anybody feel obligated&#8211;Just thinking that if the name was out in public, maybe NTM could be confronted with it, asking them how in the world can this perp still be with NTM&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hope this makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://fandaeagles.com/2009/07/more-from-miriam-celeti/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura - thanks for posting that.  I was just about to!  We want this place to be safe for people who are just beginning to speak out about their own abuses.  There is no pressure or obligation to disclose names, if the victims desire to keep these things to themselves.
On the other hand, Miriam - if you do decide to name names, we back you and support you 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura &#8211; thanks for posting that.  I was just about to!  We want this place to be safe for people who are just beginning to speak out about their own abuses.  There is no pressure or obligation to disclose names, if the victims desire to keep these things to themselves.<br />
On the other hand, Miriam &#8211; if you do decide to name names, we back you and support you 100%.</p>
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