Comments on: Ron A – letter to the Budiks

By: Mar

Mar — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:45:58 +0000

The most telling sentence in this is “God leads through leadership.” No mention of “God leads by His Holy Spirit” … such arrogance on the leadership’s part. Praying for healing from spiritual abuse for all involved … righteously angry at the battering of souls taking place. My heart is with you.

By: JerryB

JerryB — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:09:19 +0000

I was going to make a caustic remark about people who would take this sort of action, but I think Jesus said it best:

“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” (Matt. 18:6 – KJV)

When I read the GRACE report, I thought the recommendations were rather harsh, but based on the verses following this one, I now think they are in line with the principles that Jesus set forth.

(Perhaps that page is missing from their Bibles.)

By: Lucy B.

Lucy B. — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:17:29 +0000

My heart is sick after reading this letter. The man who spoke for the FC to J&D in this letter is an emotional and spiritul abuser. I know how NTM leaders always spoke for God. They remind me of the Pharasies of Jesus day. They always lifted themselves above Him. The FC were in essence “religious” leaders not men of God who understand grace. How condecending to make the tribal people think that J&D weren’t being led by God. They were wonderful parents who felt there children had needs. I hope everyone in the family got counceling, because you all were abused.

By: Older Sister

Older Sister — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:53:25 +0000

What an arrogant misguided fool!! Who does he think he is—God! You’ve all said what I’m feeling!!

By: Diane Mikitson

Diane Mikitson — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:26:04 +0000

Our copy was signed by Ron and Debbie Abram Steve and Jessica Bastow Ken and Kathy Satorius@Kari

By: curious

curious — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:06:15 +0000

thanks kari

By: Kari

Kari — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:54:58 +0000

@curious Sure, there you go. Original is held at Sanford (where I obtained it) after Ron submitted it to our file back in the late 80's.

By: Tuti Hess

Tuti Hess — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:49:37 +0000

In regards to Ron and Deb Abram I have mixed emotions. Ron and Deb in general were very nice to us and gave us gifts from time to time. Occasionally personally we saw a different side to Ron. We did see how others were treated by Ron and that was painful; we did not agree with several things he said and did. Personally I think the man is sick and needs help. I hope they do not have a big party; I think that would be inappropriate, kind of like building a mosque near the 9/11 memorial site in New York.

By: Tuti Hess

Tuti Hess — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:40:04 +0000

@Feelingleftout Hi feelingleftout person, Thanx for writing on this blog. I believe in regards to F. Stott that the correspondence referred to is the monthly Day of Prayer DOP letter. I'm in the process of trying to communicate with the present Senegal leadership to ask for clarification on this point. I was in Senegal from 97 to 07. I've been disturbed by the blanket silence from present Senegal leadership on what has come to light. I'm in the process of trying to talk directly to people there. I would encourage you to do the same. If you have questions please ask, don't be afraid, God knows all about this mess it needs to be brought out into the light. As a former NTM Senegal co-worker recently said to me, "you leave the dirty laundry laying around for too long it starts to mould and stink".

By: curious

curious — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:35:10 +0000

Kari, please post a scan of the original letter if it exists. Thank you.