Comments on: Dear NTM http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/ Our Voice Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:08:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ntmabuse http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/comment-page-1/#comment-15 ntmabuse Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:28:23 +0000 http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/?p=84#comment-15 Hello bystander, First of all, you copied and pasted this either directly from an email, or from our other blog. Our other blog was only open to NTM at the time you posted this comment, so I can only assume you are from NTM. Either way, thanks for asking. Even though your tone was less than desirable, and we have stopped posting anonymous comments, I wanted to answer this one for all those who still don't quite seem to be able to understand. NTM has been officially "investigating" this matter since 1997. The events date back to 1989. In the last 8 months of direct contact with NTM, we have heard this response every time we queried, where are we on this investigation? It has been 20 years since events took place and NTM learned of them, 12 years since NTM opened an investigation, and 8 months after having regular contact with NTM, and in 2009 we still have no resolution. We will not wait any longer. Hello bystander,

First of all, you copied and pasted this either directly from an email, or from our other blog. Our other blog was only open to NTM at the time you posted this comment, so I can only assume you are from NTM. Either way, thanks for asking. Even though your tone was less than desirable, and we have stopped posting anonymous comments, I wanted to answer this one for all those who still don’t quite seem to be able to understand.

NTM has been officially “investigating” this matter since 1997.

The events date back to 1989.

In the last 8 months of direct contact with NTM, we have heard this response every time we queried, where are we on this investigation?

It has been 20 years since events took place and NTM learned of them, 12 years since NTM opened an investigation, and 8 months after having regular contact with NTM, and in 2009 we still have no resolution. We will not wait any longer.

]]> By: Anon http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Anon Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:39 +0000 http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/?p=84#comment-11 From the NTM USA Executive Board a week ago: "We are wanting to express our deep sorrow and apologize for what happened to you and several others during those dark days at the boarding school. ... I have to admit that I’m still not sure of all that you want to see happen and I’m not sure that we will ever be able to meet your expectations. I hate what happened to you, but am not sure how to go back 15-20 years ago and take care of all this when most of these perpetrators are not with the mission anymore. I know that the CPC is continuing to do investigation on this whole matter." It sure sounds like NTM is taking this matter seriously. They are still doing an investigation into this matter.... NTM IS behind you. They aren't trying to cover up anything. Why don't you see this? -A bystander. From the NTM USA Executive Board a week ago:

“We are wanting to express our deep sorrow and apologize for what happened to you and several others during those dark days at the boarding school. … I have to admit that I’m still not sure of all that you want to see happen and I’m not sure that we will ever be able to meet your expectations. I hate what happened to you, but am not sure how to go back 15-20 years ago and take care of all this when most of these perpetrators are not with the mission anymore. I know that the CPC is continuing to do investigation on this whole matter.”

It sure sounds like NTM is taking this matter seriously. They are still doing an investigation into this matter….

NTM IS behind you. They aren’t trying to cover up anything.

Why don’t you see this?

-A bystander.

]]> By: Fanda MK http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Fanda MK Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:23 +0000 http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/?p=84#comment-14 Val - I'm afraid I may have been misunderstood. Please note that I wrote about the <i>abusers'</i> therapy, not the victims'. I certainly think victims have the right to counseling, paid for by the abusers. ntmabuse - I'm going to withhold my name for this post for personal reasons, but I promise to post under my name if I have any further constructive suggestions. Also, I did not know about the insurance you mentioned. In that case, I would expect NTM to do their part. Val – I’m afraid I may have been misunderstood. Please note that I wrote about the abusers’ therapy, not the victims’. I certainly think victims have the right to counseling, paid for by the abusers.

ntmabuse – I’m going to withhold my name for this post for personal reasons, but I promise to post under my name if I have any further constructive suggestions. Also, I did not know about the insurance you mentioned. In that case, I would expect NTM to do their part.

]]> By: Val http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Val Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:30 +0000 http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/?p=84#comment-13 To FandaMK- I would really like to understand more of why you dont think the mission should pay for private therapy? It seems that it would be a great benefit to the victims as well as their parents, provided that they are will to face the truth of what happened. Therapy can help greatly with healing. Please explain more. To FandaMK-
I would really like to understand more of why you dont think the mission should pay for private therapy? It seems that it would be a great benefit to the victims as well as their parents, provided that they are will to face the truth of what happened. Therapy can help greatly with healing. Please explain more.

]]> By: ntmabuse http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/comment-page-1/#comment-12 ntmabuse Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:09:59 +0000 http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/?p=84#comment-12 The NTM abuse manual says they will provide funds for counseling to abused MKs. Not counseling, because I don't think any one of us would go to NTM for counseling, but reimbursement for counseling with a therapist of our choice. I don't see an issue here. In my opinion this is the most important thing they could do. They have insurance. Friendly suggestions are awesome, I love them. But I do ask if you want to claim what WE must make clear then you should identify yourself and participate in the discussion. No one affiliated with this blog has expressed the desire for personal gain from this. Yes, we should include something about prevention of future abuse. Please identify yourself and make some suggestions. The NTM abuse manual says they will provide funds for counseling to abused MKs. Not counseling, because I don’t think any one of us would go to NTM for counseling, but reimbursement for counseling with a therapist of our choice. I don’t see an issue here. In my opinion this is the most important thing they could do. They have insurance.

Friendly suggestions are awesome, I love them. But I do ask if you want to claim what WE must make clear then you should identify yourself and participate in the discussion.

No one affiliated with this blog has expressed the desire for personal gain from this. Yes, we should include something about prevention of future abuse. Please identify yourself and make some suggestions.

]]> By: Fanda MK http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Fanda MK Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:39:08 +0000 http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/?p=84#comment-17 If I may offer a friendly suggestion, I think perhaps we are asking for more than what is reasonable (certainly more than what is likely). Many, if not most, of those responsible are no longer with the mission board, so those we ask for restitution are not those who caused the problems. I support items 2, 3, & 5 wholeheartedly. I don't think NTM needs to reimburse the abusers for their counseling. And when the victims request monetary damages, it can tend to cheapen the validity of their claim. We must make it clear that our goal is about protecting the innocent, not personal gain. Also, shouldn't this list include something about a plan to prevent future abuse? If I may offer a friendly suggestion, I think perhaps we are asking for more than what is reasonable (certainly more than what is likely). Many, if not most, of those responsible are no longer with the mission board, so those we ask for restitution are not those who caused the problems. I support items 2, 3, & 5 wholeheartedly. I don’t think NTM needs to reimburse the abusers for their counseling. And when the victims request monetary damages, it can tend to cheapen the validity of their claim. We must make it clear that our goal is about protecting the innocent, not personal gain. Also, shouldn’t this list include something about a plan to prevent future abuse?

]]> By: victoriafrayne http://fandaeagles.com/2009/06/dear-ntm/comment-page-1/#comment-16 victoriafrayne Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:37:54 +0000 http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/?p=84#comment-16 In total support. In total support.

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